Thardy
Veteran
The one issue I caught of Rangefinder Magazine had nothing at all to do with rangefinders...maybe 1 article. I rember feeling ripped off.
I hope you didn't buy it. It comes free.
Rangefinder Mag is mostly about wedding photos, and one of the big things lately is "photojournalist style" wedding photos. It's actually a breath of fresh air, and considering the cost of a wedding, a good way to approach it. With all the new kinds of photobooks, a small, DRF with high noise free ISO would be a real advantage.
Then again, nothing that can't be done with film, but digital would work better into the pro workflow along with the conventional shots.
Then again, nothing that can't be done with film, but digital would work better into the pro workflow along with the conventional shots.
VinceC
Veteran
The "big" announcement seems much more related to WPPI, not Nikon.
The ad says it's "the 2009 WPPI BIG event, sponsored by Nikon." "Something BIG is coming to WPPI this year..."
The doesn't sound like a new camera at all. The ad is focused exclusively on something for WPPI, not something for Nikon.
The ad says it's "the 2009 WPPI BIG event, sponsored by Nikon." "Something BIG is coming to WPPI this year..."
The doesn't sound like a new camera at all. The ad is focused exclusively on something for WPPI, not something for Nikon.
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mknawabi
photographeur
sorry to break it to you, but rangefinder magazine has nothing to do with actual rangefinders
Highway 61
Revisited
Absolutely, it says "sponsored by Nikon", so it's pretty clear it has nothing to do with the presentation of a new Nikon camera.The "big" announcement seems much more related to WPPI, not Nikon.
The ad says it's "the 2009 WPPI BIG event, sponsored by Nikon." "Something BIG is coming to WPPI this year..."
The doesn't sound like a new camera at all. The ad is focused exclusively on something for WPPI, not something for Nikon.
This is now the third time I write this down but I still strongly believe in that opinion : Nikon never paid any attention to the large Nikon AI-S lenses owners crowd who all wanted a compact, simple (with just a few metering modes, no results-program mode, no built-in flash, etc) yet efficient and reliable DSLR featuring a AI/AI-S prong (okay there are the D200 and D300 for this but quite frankly I don't see the point of having to buy a bulky-heavy DSLR designed for AF-D/AF-G chipped lenses if it's to use it with manual focus lenses only) so I still can't get this rumour about Nikon being about to spend money and R&D time to series produce, at a very low and incertain ROI level, a digital rangefinder for people owning not Nikon M-mount lenses to use them.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I hope you didn't buy it. It comes free.
Sorry, it'd been a while. I think I signed up for it or something, I'd been all excited at the prospect and was disapointed.
infrequent
Well-known
MX format to go with FX and DX...
MX format to go with FX and DX...
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/otoji-spy-shot.aspx
apparently medium format makes more sense than a rangefinder...
MX format to go with FX and DX...
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/otoji-spy-shot.aspx
apparently medium format makes more sense than a rangefinder...
sevres_babylone
Veteran
Hey, how about a medium-format digital rangefinder that takes Mamiya 7 lensesapparently medium format makes more sense than a rangefinder...
dazedgonebye
Veteran
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/otoji-spy-shot.aspx
apparently medium format makes more sense than a rangefinder...
Wow! How cool (and completely useless to me) is that?
fortynine
Member
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/01/otoji-spy-shot.aspx
apparently medium format makes more sense than a rangefinder...
I don't see it as either-or situation. But modular & MF looks more a fact than a rumour given they have introduced 4 expensive slow PC-E lenses meant for architecture and landscape this year rather than the fast lenses meant for pro-sumers.
The image circle of the PC-E are meant to cover a much bigger area than FX sensor.
I'm not even sure a new nikon MF will mean larger distance between lens and sensor ( unlike old MF where there's a mirror ). Liveview is the new mirror. I think we can see a very short kind of MF. Its the RF advantage applied to MF.
sevres_babylone
Veteran
I think the Big ad in Rangefinder magazine is a red herring as far as Photokina goes. It never made sense that they were going to introduce the digital rangefinder at a wedding photographers convention; it does make sense that they would use it to unveil an MF digital though. I still have hopes for a Nikon DRF, and don't think the D90 is the last we'll hear from Nikon before Photokina.
infrequent
Well-known
@sevres - well there is nikon announcement on sept 3. don't think it will be new cameras though. maybe more notsocoolpix.
fortynine
Member
I still have hopes for a Nikon DRF, and don't think the D90 is the last we'll hear from Nikon before Photokina.
My hopes too but its fading fast. I hv never seen a camera company develop the whole spectrum of camera equipment across formats, and within a year. If they succeed, they truly live their logo - " At the Heart of the Image".
infrequent
Well-known
@fortynine - although i love this nikon tour-de-force and how they are going gangbusters in all different formats etc...surely a dRF will take the cherry?! we can dream...
snegron
Established
Absolutely amazing. I brought this subject up here several months ago and "was put in my place" for daring to suggest such a heretical notion such as a Nikon digital rangefinder. Now, it seems that everyone is willing to stand in line for one. I even went as far as dreaming about a new SP-D with a new mount that would take Zeiss-produced lenses. One thing for certain though, I will probably buy a new Nikon digital rangefinder if they produce it.
Ray Nalley
Well-known
Looking at Leica's problem with the M8, what if the new digital SP-D rangefinder looked nothing like the old Nikon rangefinder, would you still be willing to buy it?
snegron
Established
Looking at Leica's problem with the M8, what if the new digital SP-D rangefinder looked nothing like the old Nikon rangefinder, would you still be willing to buy it?
Leica's problem can be easily corrected by improving their next firmware version. The actual design of a digital rangefinder was perfected by Leica when they introduced the M8. They proved that it could be done. All Nikon has to do is copy a proven Leica product, slap their name on it, and market to the masses at a lower price (kind of like what they did with the original Nikon rangefinder-except this time they can copy a Leica instead of a Contax).
So, based on my assumption that Nikon can produce a less expensive M8 with a Zeiss/Ikon mount, yes, I will buy one. The way I see it, if Nikon doesn't make a digital rangefinder soon, I am sure that Voigtlander (Cosina) will introduce one in the very near future.
charjohncarter
Veteran
I'll buy one if I can use my LTM lenses. I realize that is asking a lot but I'm not going to buy any more lenses. I have just too many already.
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Solinar
Analog Preferred
John you are asking a lot. If it wasn't for my Nikon DSLR - all but two of my lenses would be LTM. The DSLR kit alone has a 35, 50, 85 and a 18-70 zoom - with gas pains for a 20/2.8.
It will be interesting to see if mirror-less SLR's will require a whole new system of lenses.
It will be interesting to see if mirror-less SLR's will require a whole new system of lenses.
fortynine
Member
with a nikon DRF, I dun think enough has been said about Nikon's liveview tech coming to RF. this LCD display tech is now standard feature in all DSLRs.
positives with shooting via the back LCD
1. Lenses less than 28mm can now be viewed and composed without external viewfinders.
2. Front-focus, backfocus issues are now moot cos we're focusing the image, not the viewfinder.
3. Framing problems with odd focal lengths are also moot 25,40, 100 etc
4. DOF preview is live. We have DSLR-like control over bokeh
5. Macro photograhy has no framing or focus issues
6. This RF can shoot telephotos with high accuracy cos image LCD sized and not small VF rectangle
7. Discrete shooting. Camera need not be at eye-level
Panasonic stole the thunder with the first mirror-less dRF
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091202panasonic_DMC_G1.asp
I think this supports my case that any new Nikon dRF will be larglely electronic with liveview as a key advantage, be it a EVF or LCD.
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