kutitta
Well-known
Thanks mate, I am an Australian by choice, and one of the things I have learnt in this country is that do not change your plans (or your mind in our case) because it rains!
Thanks for the tip for the scanning error as well - so it was not me but the lab guy who did the scanning...
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
So a happy ending. And some nice prints.
Now put the 120 towards a proper Leica 90-C f/4 lens. You won't regret it, then look for one of their nice fitted cases...
Regards, David
So a happy ending. And some nice prints.
Now put the 120 towards a proper Leica 90-C f/4 lens. You won't regret it, then look for one of their nice fitted cases...
Regards, David
kutitta
Well-known
David Hughes said:
Yes, that's what I will do for sure, thanks heaps for the advise! But my Russian friend has found a mint Zorki 4K with Industar 50 f/3.5 and Jupiter 9 85mm f/2 and its viewfinder for around $50, so I'm getting that kit as well. It should be leaving Vladivostok sometime today. If I would have serious focusing issues with my CL as discussed in RD, I can simply use them with Zorki.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Now that's another pleasant camera and with two nice lenses. But be careful, you are at the top of a very steep and slippery slope.
As for focusing issues, for portraits with the 85mm, try focussing on the eyes for one shot and the ears for the next. If the eyes come out in focus for the 2nd shot, then you know what to do. And if they come out in focus in the first shot then celebrate!
But, I guess you'll end up with the full CL kit, the full Zorki kit, then the full ................ kit (fill in as appropriate).
Have fun.
Regards, David
kutitta
Well-known
Hi David,
I see you your point in regards to being a very steep and slippery road, and that's what I actually confessed to my wife just last night. I have been shooting film quite a while with funny (according to her) cameras, but I mostly used film SLRs - my beloved Electro 35 GSN was the only rangefinder I had. But in the last couple of weeks, I don't even fancy shooting with my other cameras, even though I am deeply in love with the combination of Olympus OM-1n and Zuiko 50mm f/1.4.
Thank you very much for the focusing tip, a simple yet smart solution I reckon, much appreciated!
Best regards
Kutay
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
In that case, don't ever look at an Olympus 35-Sp or the XA.
And tell her that people will often give you their old film cameras for free when they see you shooting with film. And do some huge enlargements that are beyond the range of digital. Fluffy kittens or grand children etc work best, imo.
Regards, David
In that case, don't ever look at an Olympus 35-Sp or the XA.
And tell her that people will often give you their old film cameras for free when they see you shooting with film. And do some huge enlargements that are beyond the range of digital. Fluffy kittens or grand children etc work best, imo.
Regards, David
kutitta
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Thanks again David for your advise - but in order to speed up the process I will do an enlargement of our three-year old son - or a fluffy kitten
our grandchildren are at least two decades away...
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
All part of the service.
Ever since I typed that I've been worrying that you'll go straight out and start looking at Olympus 35SP's... Beware of them!
Regards, David
All part of the service.
Ever since I typed that I've been worrying that you'll go straight out and start looking at Olympus 35SP's... Beware of them!
Regards, David
kutitta
Well-known
Hi David,
I just did a quick research on 35SP, and it seems to be an interesting rangefinder - with 42/1.7 Zuiko lens, centerweighted and spot metering plus AE etc... It was definitely ahead of its time. I also checked their prices on ebay, and they are not terribly expensive.
I am taking your advise and not buying it anytime soon though!
But is there any particular reason to beware of them?
Regards, Kutay
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi David,
I just did a quick research on 35SP, and it seems to be an interesting rangefinder - with 42/1.7 Zuiko lens, centerweighted and spot metering plus AE etc... It was definitely ahead of its time. I also checked their prices on ebay, and they are not terribly expensive.
I am taking your advise and not buying it anytime soon though!
But is there any particular reason to beware of them?
Regards, Kutay
Hi,
Well, a lot of people (I'm one of them) rate them very highly and drool at the thought of getting one in mint condition in a charity shop...
The lens is well up to the standard you'd expect from a Zuiko and the rest of the camera is carefully thought out to be both a programmed and manual camera with both average metering and spot metering. Although I'm not 100% certain if the full range of combinations is available.
The handling is lovely, you can switch to the spot metering as quickly as you can think it and...
I'd better stop there! I had 250 + cameras in the collection and am trying to cut them back to one display case of about 6 or so. I'm nearly there with 6 dozen plus left and don't want to go hunting for another.
If your ears start burning any-time in the next month, you'll know why.
Regards, David
k__43
Registered Film User
with the CL you will not need "consumer class" rangefinders like the Olympus, or yashica or minoltas etc etc .. The CL is almost as compact and better. better glass, better viewfinder, better metering.
Damn - this thread made me look at ebay for CLs again. Still a bit sorry I sold mine.
Damn - this thread made me look at ebay for CLs again. Still a bit sorry I sold mine.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by consumer class; what about the M2 f'instance? And why the M series with a "P" for professional etc and non-P M's? Looking at the CL beside the M4's then it looks as though Leica were after the consumer classes.
But the Olympus 35-SP is really state of the art aimed at pro's who wanted something for the weekend (as they used to say years ago); Olympus's consumer stuff was more like the Trip 35 etc.
Looking at slides from the CL and 35SP there is no difference that I can see. And many years ago I illustrated an entire and very technical book with pictures taken with a 35SP, simply because I was convinced it was up to the task. But I was using B&W and sending them to a pro lab, which may have bought out the best in the camera.
Regards, David
k__43
Registered Film User
Yes, you are right. I was just saying he already has the CL, why should he get a more simple RF?
Honestly I never had a 35SP in my hands only similar cameras of other manufacturers (Canon, Vivitar, Minolta) and I still own a XA which I love, but find it not as good as the CL+40mm combo.
David Hughes
David Hughes
HI,
I'm with you there; I'm often asked why anyone with two cameras would want a third. There's a variation my wife uses where the figures are much, much higher!
Most of the middle of the range Olympus and others RF's are very pleasant to use. But they were designed to be user friendly and not so hard/professional to use. I'd still be using a lot of them but there's battery problems as well, and so on.
Regards, David
I'm with you there; I'm often asked why anyone with two cameras would want a third. There's a variation my wife uses where the figures are much, much higher!
Most of the middle of the range Olympus and others RF's are very pleasant to use. But they were designed to be user friendly and not so hard/professional to use. I'd still be using a lot of them but there's battery problems as well, and so on.
Regards, David
kutitta
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Thank you David and k_43 for your useful insights.
I would probably stick to Leica CL and Electro 35 GSN for a while, as I need to invest in lenses that I can use with my CL - Elmar-C 90 being at the top of my list.
I am also getting a Zorki 4K with two lenses, but my friend has decided not to post them, as he will be coming to Sydney in a month or so. But I paid very little for the kit.
But who knows, I might come across an Olympus 35SP or else at a charity shop...
BTW I bought a minty Polaroid Land Camera 1000 with its hard carry case again from Salvos for $4 yesterday. I ordered a pack of films to test the camera and also to have an experience with it, and would probably sell it on ebay to raise some cash for Elmar-C.
I would probably stick to Leica CL and Electro 35 GSN for a while, as I need to invest in lenses that I can use with my CL - Elmar-C 90 being at the top of my list.
I am also getting a Zorki 4K with two lenses, but my friend has decided not to post them, as he will be coming to Sydney in a month or so. But I paid very little for the kit.
But who knows, I might come across an Olympus 35SP or else at a charity shop...
BTW I bought a minty Polaroid Land Camera 1000 with its hard carry case again from Salvos for $4 yesterday. I ordered a pack of films to test the camera and also to have an experience with it, and would probably sell it on ebay to raise some cash for Elmar-C.
k__43
Registered Film User
Clearly I need to go to Australia and check those Salvos.
kutitta
Well-known
k__43 said:
Just another reason to explore this distant land
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Yes, I was thinking that too but, otoh, I got a nice Minolta, in town, the other day for fifty pennies...
Also it might take a while to get there on my free bus pass.
Regards, David
Yes, I was thinking that too but, otoh, I got a nice Minolta, in town, the other day for fifty pennies...
Also it might take a while to get there on my free bus pass.
Regards, David
kutitta
Well-known
Just a quick, probably the final update in this thread... the CL is working just fine, and I'm using it with a great joy. The second roll was largely family shots, and I used adain Ilford XP2 Super 400 but they all came out much better than the first roll.
Here is my son!
Here is my son!