New M lenses offered with the M8?

[MP/CLE]

The best I have been able to divine has been a stand alone 17 mm f2.8 and a tri-elmar digital equivalent of a 21-28-35 at f/4.0. Supposedly these are the new lenses available with the M8 which will make up the difference between the normal M lenses and the 1.33 crop factor.

The 17mm will replace the 21 mm in the lineup... I hope all the other lenses fall into place with the M8.

 

[Mark Norton]

I'd be surprised if a new Tri-Elmar overlapped the existing one by two of the focal lengths, little incentive for people to buy both.

 

[LCT]

Yes, also a 17mm lens would be of little interest for film users.
I would vote for a 15mm lens instead.
Best,
LCT

 

[MP/CLE]

I think the point was that a 17 with the digital crop factor is essentially a 21 on film, while a 21 on digital is approximately a 28. No overlap... notice my statement "the digital equivalent" of those focal lengths.

 

[Mark Norton]

So what are you saying the actual focal lengths of a new Tri-Elmar shoud be, keeping in mind the current one is 28-35-50?

 

[Tony Rose]

Lens Modification for M8

Lens Modification for M8

The news is out!

Go to:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/06061001leicamdlenses.asp

TR

 

[MP/CLE]

So what are you saying the actual focal lengths of a new Tri-Elmar shoud be, keeping in mind the current one is 28-35-50?

Yes. If the current 28/35/50 becomes a 35/44/63 on a digital M (given a 1.25 crop rate), then a digital 17/19/21 would become a 21/24/26 on a film M, and thus no overlap between tri-elmars. I am only using those three focal lengths as an example... if anyone knows the actual lengths expected, please let us know.

 

[Mark Norton]

The crop factor is 1.33, not 1.25, so that a 21 becomes a 28 and so on.

Seems to me we're likely to see a wide Elmarit to approximate to the existing 21 and 24 Elmarits (15 + 18 or 16-17) and a 28mm Elmarit ASPH to fill the gap left by the discontinued non-ASPH lens.

Tri-Elmars are complex, expensive and slow and a wide one would just exacerbate the problems of wides with the Digital M. A 21-24-28 would be nice but there's the whole issue of coupling it to the viewfinder frame lines. I doubt we'll see it.

I do think they also need an entry level 35mm lens, the digital equivalent of the 50mm Summicron, so maybe we'll see a 35mm Elmarit as the new starter lens. Maybe €3995 body only, €4995 for body + 35mm Elmarit. Keep in mind the 35mm Summicron is €1900.

How does that sound, apart from expensive?

 

[LCT]

...maybe we'll see a 35mm Elmarit as the new starter lens. Maybe €3995 body only, €4995 for body + 35mm Elmarit. Keep in mind the 35mm Summicron is €1900. How does that sound, apart from expensive?

1000$ for a slow (f/2.8) entry lens?
Most people would prefer a second hand Summicron i guess.
But a new 35/2 SSSBZC (Super-Sharp-Smooth-Bokeh-Zebra-Cron) 😉 at $1,500 would be a nice move perhaps...
Best,
LCT

 

[billh]

"http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/0...icamdlenses.asp"

Why isn't the 75 f2.0 on this list?

 

[sdai]

"http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/0...icamdlenses.asp"

Why isn't the 75 f2.0 on this list?

Not a good copy and paste job ... 😛

http://www.leica-camera.com/imperia/md/content/pdf/objektive/18.pdf

 

[LCT]

"http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/0...icamdlenses.asp"
Why isn't the 75 f2.0 on this list?

Hi Bill,
Your dear 75/2 is on the list my friend.
Best,
LCT

 

[Bob Parsons]

"http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/0...icamdlenses.asp"

Why isn't the 75 f2.0 on this list?

The 11822 Noctilux isn't on that list either 🙁 but it is in the Leica pdf document 🙂

Bob.

 

[Mark Norton]

The DP Review list is creating more confusion than light. If they can make mistakes on a simple cust and paste, does make you wonder how accurate the rest of their stuff is.

 

[billh]

Thank you guys.

Hi LCT - you are absolutely correct - that is the best lens I have ever used, and I am really looking forward to trying it on the Leica 10.5 MP CCD. I am hoping to have the M8 in September, or early October, and I am trying to decide which lenses to send away to have converted. I am not sure whether to sent the 21 or not (I may get a 28 Summicron and wait to hear more about the wide lens they will release with the camera). I would also like to have a better idea of just how these contacts will enable (an algorithm?) to “improve” the image. I do not care about knowing which lens I used when I took a photo.

Bill

 

[Bob Parsons]

Thank you guys.
[snip]
I would also like to have a better idea of just how these contacts will enable (an algorithm?) to “improve” the image. I do not care about knowing which lens I used when I took a photo.

Bill

Have a look at all of Joseph S. Wisniewski's postings in this thread: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=18734770




Bob.

 

[Ben Z]

Well if the coding actually does make a palpable difference in RAW files in terms of counteracting the sensor vignetting based on specific lens design, I hope that either Leica makes that available through a menu or else that some enterprising soul finds a way to hack the firmware and open up the function to being manually accessed. Or at least publishes a set of "recipes" for Photoshop tweaks for various lenses. I bet someone does one or all of those.

 

[Nemo]

The new lenses will be 17mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8 and a new Tri-Elmar.

 

[jaapv]

The news is out!

Go to:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0606/06061001leicamdlenses.asp

TR

Yeah- but they have the number of permutations wrong -it is 192. They forgot that the camera "sees" three groups of focal lengths.

 

[LCT]

The new lenses will be 17mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8 and a new Tri-Elmar.

Would you mind to tell where you've found out that scoop?
Best,
LCT