Richard Marks
Rexel
I have seen this with previous versionsI have seen exactly this same thing. The remaining shot indicated 500-some instead of 187 (or whatever the usual is). After one shot, it was corrected.
I think its giving the remaining capacity as JPEGS rather than RAW, and it swiches back after one shot.
Incidentally the file sizes for RAW seem to have increased slighly too with this new version
Richard
kenn
Ken Nickerson
Downloaded and installed. Zero issues. Tried a few shots, and the new "Auto" mode. It's a useful upgrade as ISO 1250 is decent and 640 is almost solid. So far, very happy with this upgrade.
Download Site: http://us.leica-camera.com/service/downloads/rangefinder_cameras/m8/index.html
Download Site: http://us.leica-camera.com/service/downloads/rangefinder_cameras/m8/index.html
Belle
Established
After my download, I had to reset all my "user profile" settings again. That never happened in previous firmware updates.
Bob Parsons
Established
I have seen this with previous versions
I think its giving the remaining capacity as JPEGS rather than RAW, and it swiches back after one shot.
Incidentally the file sizes for RAW seem to have increased slighly too with this new version
Richard
I haven't seen any change in RAW file size with Ver 2 from pictures made almost 2 yrs ago. The size has always been 10,575,296 bytes. Where there can be confusion is some utilities count a kilobyte as 1000 bytes rather than the binary 1024 bytes. Also, files on disk which if they don't exactly fit into an allocated block will contain slack space which some systems include in "size on disk".
I also get the incorrect remaining DNG shot count after switch on which corrects it'self after one shot - think it's a BUG.
Bob.
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boilerdoc2
Well-known
This is a major upgrade. Faster, bigger cards (SDHC), Emphasis on FASTER. Start up is almost immediate now. The wait from the shot to being able to review the image is miniscule (~5 seconds before). Auto ISO is interesting and maybe useful. AWB is great still (after 1.2 it has been).
Only ? issue is my coded 50/1.4 ASPH doesn't show up in the exif data on the camera or LR 2.0. So I wonder that might be.....
Steve
Only ? issue is my coded 50/1.4 ASPH doesn't show up in the exif data on the camera or LR 2.0. So I wonder that might be.....
Steve
miklosphoto
Member
After many days of testing the new firmware, my favorite feature is the AutoISO. I have been using many different cameras for about 15 years, but it never occurred to me to have a requirement for this feature. Now that the M8 has it I realized how useful it is. For long time I have been working in full manual modes (even on dSLRs) and found it annoying to go to the menu to change the iso if the light levels were not sufficient. Obviously, I don't want to adjust the aperture and shutter speed setting which I want for a certain situation. It is interesting how an automatic feature like the auto ISO is actually enhancing the full manual concept on a camera.
For me it is a huge improvement.
As for the noise improvement, I am not sure about it if there is a change. But I never worried about the noise level (160-1250 ISO) as I like how Lightroom cleans it up and what is left of the noise reminds me to film grain which is to me means an artisticly enhanced photograpgh.
The next big improvement is the ability to use the SDHC cards. Now I can go on a trip with my M8 with 30GB.
Miklos
For me it is a huge improvement.
As for the noise improvement, I am not sure about it if there is a change. But I never worried about the noise level (160-1250 ISO) as I like how Lightroom cleans it up and what is left of the noise reminds me to film grain which is to me means an artisticly enhanced photograpgh.
The next big improvement is the ability to use the SDHC cards. Now I can go on a trip with my M8 with 30GB.
Miklos
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I also see no claim in the update instructions about the noise levels being improved.
Did you shoot JPEGs straight from the camera, as opposed to processing DNGs?
I haven't had time to look in painful brickwall-shooting detail at the before- and after- firmware update shots, but to me the ISO 2500 shots do look cleaner when shooting in JPEG Fine mode. Shooting DNG I saw no change.
boilerdoc2
Well-known
I think the high ISO noise is about the same. Still very good - especially if cconverted to B&W. Not Nikon D3 good but still quite good.
Steve
Steve
tmfabian
I met a man once...
Did you shoot JPEGs straight from the camera, as opposed to processing DNGs?
I haven't had time to look in painful brickwall-shooting detail at the before- and after- firmware update shots, but to me the ISO 2500 shots do look cleaner when shooting in JPEG Fine mode. Shooting DNG I saw no change.
I agree with you there Gabriel. After a few days now, I see ZERO change in DNG, but JPEGS are cleaner.
Tuolumne
Veteran
After many days of testing the new firmware, my favorite feature is the AutoISO. I have been using many different cameras for about 15 years, but it never occurred to me to have a requirement for this feature. Now that the M8 has it I realized how useful it is. For long time I have been working in full manual modes (even on dSLRs) and found it annoying to go to the menu to change the iso if the light levels were not sufficient. Obviously, I don't want to adjust the aperture and shutter speed setting which I want for a certain situation. It is interesting how an automatic feature like the auto ISO is actually enhancing the full manual concept on a camera.
For me it is a huge improvement.
As for the noise improvement, I am not sure about it if there is a change. But I never worried about the noise level (160-1250 ISO) as I like how Lightroom cleans it up and what is left of the noise reminds me to film grain which is to me means an artisticly enhanced photograpgh.
The next big improvement is the ability to use the SDHC cards. Now I can go on a trip with my M8 with 30GB.
Miklos
The auto ISO mode has been a feature in many P&S digitals for a long time. It is quite useful, but not ground breaking.
/T
miklosphoto
Member
The auto ISO mode has been a feature in many P&S digitals for a long time. It is quite useful, but not ground breaking.
/T
Well, that's it then, I have been using SLRs, DSLRs and RFs only. That explains why the Auto ISO is much fun to me.
jbf
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Auto ISO has been around in practically every make/model of digital cameras for some time. Not just P&S. I bet you just missed it completely. 
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
The next big improvement is the ability to use the SDHC cards. Now I can go on a trip with my M8 with 30GB.
Miklos
And lose 3000 shots when the card gets stolen/lost/breaks down
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
No problem-I just grab my DMR.. Or 2nd M8...or Digilux2... or even M3 
My camera shop tells me the 32 Mb cards are "rather unstable" btw....
My camera shop tells me the 32 Mb cards are "rather unstable" btw....
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cam
the need for speed
i'm just curious -- does anybody notice a slight lag with the Auto ISO feature?
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
I agree - change a card- change a battery. Sound working.I personally never use anything bigger than 2 gig ... I don't see the point and changing a card is not that hard let's face it!
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
i'm just curious -- does anybody notice a slight lag with the Auto ISO feature?
Ummm.........no.
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