New Orleans - Just in case it is missed
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CZeni
DaDa is everywhere.
Great link, thanks.
Take a look at these Lower 9th images, all shot within the past three weeks:
http://www.400tx.com/9th-1.html
Appalling.
Take a look at these Lower 9th images, all shot within the past three weeks:
http://www.400tx.com/9th-1.html
Appalling.
C
ch1
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CZeni said:
They speak volumes about us - whether we like it or not.
dreilly
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Thanks for those links. Not having time to watch TV, and TV's propensity to show everything but nothing anyway, I've been very slow to appreciate how the destruction of New Orleans and surrounding areas actually looks, though I've heard plenty on the radio about how it felt. These photos work to complete my understanding.
brachal
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Thank you, Craig and FP, for posting about my city. I've been lurking around for awhile and posting an occasional question; I guess I should introduce myself to the forum. My name is Bill and I live in New Orleans. I'd like to say that rangefinder forum is, far and away, my favorite place on the web. I really enjoy all the friendly, knowledgeable, helpful people. I shoot (badly) a Fed5b, Fed2, Bessa R, and my father's old Nikkormat Ftn.
Parts of NO are doing alright; I'm lucky enough to live on what we call "the island" -- the dry strip by the river. The vast majority of the city is still in very, very bad shape. Without going into politics, if you care about New Orleans please contact your congresspeople and ask them to support Category 5 flood protection and the Baker Bill. I think the levee issue speaks for itself. Without the Baker Bill, thousands of home owners will lose their property with no chance to rebuild.
Just speaking personally, it's hard living in New Orleans right now, even in the good parts. There's an overwhelming feeling that the country's forgotten us, or worse that it just doesn't care. Thanks to all of y'all for caring.
Bill
Parts of NO are doing alright; I'm lucky enough to live on what we call "the island" -- the dry strip by the river. The vast majority of the city is still in very, very bad shape. Without going into politics, if you care about New Orleans please contact your congresspeople and ask them to support Category 5 flood protection and the Baker Bill. I think the levee issue speaks for itself. Without the Baker Bill, thousands of home owners will lose their property with no chance to rebuild.
Just speaking personally, it's hard living in New Orleans right now, even in the good parts. There's an overwhelming feeling that the country's forgotten us, or worse that it just doesn't care. Thanks to all of y'all for caring.
Bill
lushd
Donald
Hi Biil - just so you know there were plenty people in Europe aghast as well about the way you were left to sink. Keep taking the pictures and make sure you show them to anyone you can.
K
Krasnaya_Zvezda
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CZeni said:
Astonishing images. These were done < 3 weeks ago? It's unbelievable. We should be pouring billions into the reconstruction here. Wait, I forgot... we're pouring those billions into something more important: "Spreading democracy" in Iraq. If this is not a graphic indictment of the current administration, I don't know what is.
Back to the photography, those images are beautifully done in a documentary style. Strong impact, and full of emotional content. Hits you like, well, a ton of bricks. And monochrome was the perfect choice.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Jeff Smith, the photographer, is on the Cameraquest RF mail list. Others on that list are encouraging him to get a book publishing deal, which I support. One person recommended doing a book that shows the rebuilding "progress" after 5 years. I stated it should be done ASAP; it is important work.
a.black
viva la Swiss
It's just crazy how fast such a catastrophy gets washed away from the public consciousness, not only by the media that just isn't interested anymore, but also by the people who go back to their daily life.
Thanks for posting those strong images, especially those form 400tx.com. I'm just a little surprised to see not a single person in those images. Simply deserted or forgotten.
Thanks for posting those strong images, especially those form 400tx.com. I'm just a little surprised to see not a single person in those images. Simply deserted or forgotten.
anselwannab
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Craig,
Don't be afraid to get closer to some of the objects. Your pictures document things perfectly, but almost clinicly. I thought the one of Mary with her arms out stretched begged to be the focus of the shot with all the destruction in the background.
When the flood was in the waters hid the real damage. It is unbelievable the damage done and forces that must have been exerted.
Make sure your tetanus shot is up to date!
Good Luck,
Mark
Don't be afraid to get closer to some of the objects. Your pictures document things perfectly, but almost clinicly. I thought the one of Mary with her arms out stretched begged to be the focus of the shot with all the destruction in the background.
When the flood was in the waters hid the real damage. It is unbelievable the damage done and forces that must have been exerted.
Make sure your tetanus shot is up to date!
Good Luck,
Mark
brightsky
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Thanks for posting both links.
Those photographs are sobering. It's difficult to make any comments about any of the devastated areas without involving politics. The entire situation is a national embarrassment.
Best to you, Bill, and anyone trying to hold onto to their roots in LA or MS.
Those photographs are sobering. It's difficult to make any comments about any of the devastated areas without involving politics. The entire situation is a national embarrassment.
Best to you, Bill, and anyone trying to hold onto to their roots in LA or MS.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
My aunt and one of her daughters and the daugher/cousin's boyfriend lost everything. They have moved away and won't return. When I saw my aunt in November, in her new home in the midwest, she was shellshocked. I don't know how, in her 70s, she has survived.
grantray
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As great as those shots are, they still don't give anything more than a glimpse of the city. Or the entire region for that matter. Like an inside joke that nobody understands, you have to be there in order to comprehend. I went down the first week of October to shuffle through my remaiins in mid-city. I couldn't go any earlier because the military, (and the still receding water), wouldn't let me until then. The devastation covers a vast area, and if the roads were clear, you'd be able to drive for hours, (no joke), in a land of inhabitable and abandoned homes.
Grant
Grant
a.black
viva la Swiss
Yet, a glimpse is better than none at all. And the more glimpses we get the more aware we are of the situation that is sadly still the way it is.
C
ch1
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When the magnitude of this disaster first broke-into the otherwise numb American consciousness there were some who said that N.O. was "dead" except to the extent the Latin Quarter etc. would become a tourist-oriented "Disneyland".
Optimists argued otherwise, thinking the "city-whole" could arise again.
I think time is proving that the optimists were wrong!
This is a national disgrace. As a NYC resident - I know that America can respond better than this - witness the rallying around us after 9/11.
So why is N.O. being allowed to die?
You can provide the answer as you see fit!
Thank goodness for photography - if nothing else arises from this national disgrace - these images will remain for all to see for many years!
IF HE WANTS A "LEGACY" - LET US MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PART OF IT!
Optimists argued otherwise, thinking the "city-whole" could arise again.
I think time is proving that the optimists were wrong!
This is a national disgrace. As a NYC resident - I know that America can respond better than this - witness the rallying around us after 9/11.
So why is N.O. being allowed to die?
You can provide the answer as you see fit!
Thank goodness for photography - if nothing else arises from this national disgrace - these images will remain for all to see for many years!
IF HE WANTS A "LEGACY" - LET US MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PART OF IT!
anselwannab
Well-known
Just saw on Drudge that there was a mag 5 earthquake 160 mile south of New Orleans. Hurricanes, floods, disease, tornados last week, earthquakes now. Keep an eye out for the locusts, I mean re-developers.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
I don't think I've gone through all of Jeff's shots, but #54 is the most affecting for me.
George: You are quite correct. I'm not sure what more to say.
George: You are quite correct. I'm not sure what more to say.
Ronald M
Veteran
N.O. is simply located in a bad spot. No dike system is strong enough and tall enough to protect it. Wait `til global warming raises the sea a few more feet.
Sad, but true. This is a lost cause.
Should the government do something? Well government has no money of it`s own, only what it confiscates in the form of taxes. I will resent it if they spend my tax money to help people who should not live in a hole next to the ocean anyway. This problem will return again and again.
Countries like Holland have multiple dike systems, not just one, and gates that open and close for shipping. It is a layered defence, but it the only land they have. We have lots more land so let it go. It is not worth the cost to do the job right.
Citizens who build on river banks and ocean frontage need to realize the risk they take. The problems are well known and well documented. If you still choose to live there, buy insurance or absorb the losses.
I might add the WMD`s have been moved to Syria on commercial aircraft with insides gutted to accomodate the cargo. 56 flights were made by one crew hauling the stuff. Sadam Hussainn is a maniac with bad intentions. Just look at his attitude and behavior at his trial. He is a nut case with illusions of grandeur. His hero is Joseph Stalin and that is the role model he chose to emulate. we should expect nothing less.
The silence by the press about the movement of WMD is to be expected. Same with the cross border incursions being made by the Mexican Army escorting drug smuglers. You do know about this dont`t you? The border patrol is complaining as they have nothing but single men patrols with pistols to combat bands of soldiers with automatic weopons.
Some radio people from Chicago went to Texas at the invitation of a Texas sheriff and confirmed what was being reported to the leaders by the Border Patrol. The press is again silent.
Sad, but true. This is a lost cause.
Should the government do something? Well government has no money of it`s own, only what it confiscates in the form of taxes. I will resent it if they spend my tax money to help people who should not live in a hole next to the ocean anyway. This problem will return again and again.
Countries like Holland have multiple dike systems, not just one, and gates that open and close for shipping. It is a layered defence, but it the only land they have. We have lots more land so let it go. It is not worth the cost to do the job right.
Citizens who build on river banks and ocean frontage need to realize the risk they take. The problems are well known and well documented. If you still choose to live there, buy insurance or absorb the losses.
I might add the WMD`s have been moved to Syria on commercial aircraft with insides gutted to accomodate the cargo. 56 flights were made by one crew hauling the stuff. Sadam Hussainn is a maniac with bad intentions. Just look at his attitude and behavior at his trial. He is a nut case with illusions of grandeur. His hero is Joseph Stalin and that is the role model he chose to emulate. we should expect nothing less.
The silence by the press about the movement of WMD is to be expected. Same with the cross border incursions being made by the Mexican Army escorting drug smuglers. You do know about this dont`t you? The border patrol is complaining as they have nothing but single men patrols with pistols to combat bands of soldiers with automatic weopons.
Some radio people from Chicago went to Texas at the invitation of a Texas sheriff and confirmed what was being reported to the leaders by the Border Patrol. The press is again silent.
remrf
AZRF
I am amazed that a thread about some photo's of NO (which were not all that good nor informative imo) could so quickly turn into a Bush bashing session which immediately dragged in some really old left wing whining about the middle east and our efforts there. Kudos to Ronald M for taking the time to point out a little reality amid the sobbing and wailing from our liberal brethren.
brachal
Refrigerated User
Ronald et al. , I really, really didn't want to see this thread degenerate into this, but of course it has. So here we go ...
Great nations, great cultures rebuild. They look at what went wrong and they do it better next time. If they don't, I believe it can only be because of poverty, either financial or moral. I'm pretty sure the US is still the wealthiest nation on the planet. New Orleanians are not interested in blame and finger-pointing right now; all we want is someone with the courage to say that things will be done right from now on.
New Orleans is a lost cause only if the country wants it to be. On behalf of the thousands of people, many of whom have lost everything they ever had, struggling to put their lives back together under the most trying circumstances, I'd like to say we have not given up. If we are willing to gut our mold-encrusted houses, drag all our ruined worldly goods to the curb, and sleep in a trailer or a tent (yes, I know people who had to sleep in tents. I was lucky, I got to sleep on the floor at the office my first 3 weeks back), then the least you can do is stop whining about your taxes. We always paid taxes down here, and we still do. We are the ones dealing with the lines everywhere for everything, the 9 hour waits in the emergency room because only a quarter of the hospitals are open, and no guarantees about tomorrow. When the "big one" hits California, are we simply going to shrug and say, "Well they asked for it." I hope not. If there are any of us left, New Orleanians will be the first ones volunteering to help.
People here know the risks. If someone didn't have flood insurance, it's because the government assured them they lived in an area that was not prone to flooding. Do you thing any banks will write a mortgage without requiring flood insurance if it's mandated? Even most people who had insurance are only being compensated enough to gut, sell, and move on.
I apologize to the forum for dragging the forum to this level, but this is, obviously, something I care about. I don't have many post-storm pictures, but I will try to scan and post some to make up for this. On a ligher note, my friend Georgie survived the nazi bombings of London in WW2. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard her say, "This is pretty bad -- Not as bad as the Blitz, mind you, but still pretty bad."
Great nations, great cultures rebuild. They look at what went wrong and they do it better next time. If they don't, I believe it can only be because of poverty, either financial or moral. I'm pretty sure the US is still the wealthiest nation on the planet. New Orleanians are not interested in blame and finger-pointing right now; all we want is someone with the courage to say that things will be done right from now on.
New Orleans is a lost cause only if the country wants it to be. On behalf of the thousands of people, many of whom have lost everything they ever had, struggling to put their lives back together under the most trying circumstances, I'd like to say we have not given up. If we are willing to gut our mold-encrusted houses, drag all our ruined worldly goods to the curb, and sleep in a trailer or a tent (yes, I know people who had to sleep in tents. I was lucky, I got to sleep on the floor at the office my first 3 weeks back), then the least you can do is stop whining about your taxes. We always paid taxes down here, and we still do. We are the ones dealing with the lines everywhere for everything, the 9 hour waits in the emergency room because only a quarter of the hospitals are open, and no guarantees about tomorrow. When the "big one" hits California, are we simply going to shrug and say, "Well they asked for it." I hope not. If there are any of us left, New Orleanians will be the first ones volunteering to help.
People here know the risks. If someone didn't have flood insurance, it's because the government assured them they lived in an area that was not prone to flooding. Do you thing any banks will write a mortgage without requiring flood insurance if it's mandated? Even most people who had insurance are only being compensated enough to gut, sell, and move on.
I apologize to the forum for dragging the forum to this level, but this is, obviously, something I care about. I don't have many post-storm pictures, but I will try to scan and post some to make up for this. On a ligher note, my friend Georgie survived the nazi bombings of London in WW2. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard her say, "This is pretty bad -- Not as bad as the Blitz, mind you, but still pretty bad."
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