lushd
Donald
Hi Ruben - haven't seen that show but I assume there's a lot of spying and pretending to be someone else. It sounds good.
Any rangefinders?
Any rangefinders?
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ruben
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lushd said:
Oh yes ! look right here. It's a very prived page, therefore be carefull - you can never know who is at the other side of the line.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/alias/profiles/cia_bristows.html
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rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
Well, I know he's got one at least. But that would be one that I've sent to him for re-education. And, sorry, no I'm not parting with it. 😀robin a said:
My personal favorites in FSU cameras, Jay, are:
Zorki 3m--the best VF (I think) and, significantly(once again: to me), full speed range and strap lugs.
Kiev 4a(the meterless camera)--arguably better build quality(but thats a bit of a crap shoot; I certainly got lucky with this one), very good RF/VF, and once again full speeds(though I seriously doubt that the 1/1250 speed really is) and strap lugs.
Those two cameras are also very easy on the eyes--I think they are the two prettiest FSU cameras.
And one other camera that no one's mentioned yet:
The FED5 camera(s). Ugly as heck and no strap lugs BUT the two I own work every time(so far...) and they have an uncoupled light meter which is OK for print film and has a very handy "feature": if it's too dark to read the meter, you know the meter isn't reading either--not very good for available dark but ok as a sanity check for sunny 16 shooting. And very cheap. And there are still some(lots maybe?) new old stock around.
Just my two cents worth on FSU cameras.
Welcome aboard, Jay!
Rob
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Yes, yes. We're aware of your wife's concerns. Soon, she too will notice the helicopters. But her reports of such will only be a ploy, a dodge. SHE, in fact, is CIA in cahoots with Mattox working in hopes of turning your faith from the good Comrades, Reagan, Ruben, Ian and others.lushd said:
Jocko
Off With The Pixies
Comrades! everything is clear now... I've found my tinfoil helmet!
MoTR
APX Addict
Hehe what have I started!! Ok I found someone selling a Zorki 6 already with a jupiter 3 on it that he "claims" is in good condition so Im gonna get that, see if I happy with the lens if not we'll work from there.
As to the conspiracy, they usually use vans with unusual license plates and considering the month look out for the vans with 666 on them, CIA for sure 😉
As to the conspiracy, they usually use vans with unusual license plates and considering the month look out for the vans with 666 on them, CIA for sure 😉
sf
Veteran
You want a streetable camera but can't afford a Leica?
Voigtlander makes nice cameras - as long as you get one without quality control problems. That's not too hard. R3A + 40 Nokton would be a good CV choice.
There are many decent FSU options, but I have never been very pleased with the overall FSU experience - just an opinion. Many users here produce very nice work with these cameras.
I want better than Leica image quality, so I shoot medium format. Bronica RF645, Mamiya 6, Plaubel Makina 67. These cameras will give you amazing image quality for about the price of one Leica lens. Or less.
The Canonet GIII and the Yashica GSN series are also very nice - fixed lens - but fast and well made.
Voigtlander makes nice cameras - as long as you get one without quality control problems. That's not too hard. R3A + 40 Nokton would be a good CV choice.
There are many decent FSU options, but I have never been very pleased with the overall FSU experience - just an opinion. Many users here produce very nice work with these cameras.
I want better than Leica image quality, so I shoot medium format. Bronica RF645, Mamiya 6, Plaubel Makina 67. These cameras will give you amazing image quality for about the price of one Leica lens. Or less.
The Canonet GIII and the Yashica GSN series are also very nice - fixed lens - but fast and well made.
MoTR
APX Addict
Medium Format is outta the question, Im a very poor student 😉
The cheapest price on the R3a I can find seems to be in the 600dollar mark 😉 Again my entire budget for an FSU will be bout 100dollars 😉 They do look very nice tho.
The cheapest price on the R3a I can find seems to be in the 600dollar mark 😉 Again my entire budget for an FSU will be bout 100dollars 😉 They do look very nice tho.
rolleistef
Well-known
I tell you, take a Kiev, 2a or 4a; I own a IIIA and it's just wonderful. Very quiet, sturdy built, big RF, got nice lenses.
If you want to DIY your camera, you'd better take a Zorki, it's much safer.
Otherwise, you can get a Rolleicord, which will give you far better pics than even a Leica (shoot me if you want, M supporters!), for about 100-120$.
And people will be coming and asking you how you got that unusual camera, and start chattering....
If you want to DIY your camera, you'd better take a Zorki, it's much safer.
Otherwise, you can get a Rolleicord, which will give you far better pics than even a Leica (shoot me if you want, M supporters!), for about 100-120$.
And people will be coming and asking you how you got that unusual camera, and start chattering....
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ruben
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rolleistef said:
And I repeat, If you have not enough money to include a digi meter, then no Soviet RF at all, but an old and good fixed lens Yashica (GSN GTN GX).
Cheers,
Ruben
Kim Coxon
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Good advice IMHO but whats wrong with the Konica S2 or the Canons? 😀 😀 😀
Kim
Kim
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ruben
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Kim Coxon said:
I have heard that the Konica S2 meter is rather slow, mine unoperative. If it is not then it would be my first choice due to its focusing handle.
Canon: which ? The ql gIII may be, but the f/stop and speed rings are a bit rough to operate quicly vis a vis all abovementioned cameras. About older canons I am just ignorant. Provided they have autoparallax compensation and within-the-range price, then I would look after them.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
I haven't had a problem with the speed of the S2 meter but I haven't tried one of the later Yash's. Big advantage is that you can still get readings in manual. The early Canons are about the same size as the S2 but still suffer from the same meter problem that the later small ones do in that it only works on Auto.
Kim
Kim
ruben said:
MoTR
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rolleistef said:
Whicle theu Rollei's are nice the extra cost associated with developing runs them away.
comp_wiz101
Compulsive Tinkerer
Yes, when I need uber-high quality I use a Rolleiflex SLX MF SLR... which costs a whole lot more for film than the Zorkis!
Zorkis and Feds are a great way to get into rangefinderdom... but for me I would say this with one condition: only if you feel up to learning a bit of camera repair.
I know that a lot of RFF users also recommend fixed-lens Yashica rangefinders as well. To be fair, I have purchased one in black enamel (Electro 35) that worked great. On the other hand, I purchased three and used parts from all of them to make one working camera (Great practice!). I like the Yashica Electro 35 Cameras, but like more control on my cameras. If you are going for speed though, the auto exposure can be helpful.
Out of the models I have, the Zorki 3 & 4K are tied, as far as recommending them to anyone. The Zorki 4K needed Rangefinder alignment, a minor CLA, and I replaced the worn Silkscreening on the shutter speed dial with one I made on the computer. The Zorki 3 (Haven't used a 3M) needed a CLA and RF adjust. It has a nice fit and finish for a FSU camera, looks quite nice, has engraved shutter speeds and a great easy-to-use 1:1 Viewfinder.
Both have slow speeds down to 1 Second, top speeds of 1/1000, and a removeable back
The Zorki C runs from 1/25 to 1/500 and looks like a flat-topped leica III clone. It fits well in the pocket and uses a seperate rangefinder from its built in 50mm viewfinder.
Lenses in Leica Threa Mount (LTM) are numerous and easy to find on Ebay.
Thus far I have not mentioned Kievs... because I don't own one. I'll leave that to the experts 🙂
Zorkis and Feds are a great way to get into rangefinderdom... but for me I would say this with one condition: only if you feel up to learning a bit of camera repair.
I know that a lot of RFF users also recommend fixed-lens Yashica rangefinders as well. To be fair, I have purchased one in black enamel (Electro 35) that worked great. On the other hand, I purchased three and used parts from all of them to make one working camera (Great practice!). I like the Yashica Electro 35 Cameras, but like more control on my cameras. If you are going for speed though, the auto exposure can be helpful.
Out of the models I have, the Zorki 3 & 4K are tied, as far as recommending them to anyone. The Zorki 4K needed Rangefinder alignment, a minor CLA, and I replaced the worn Silkscreening on the shutter speed dial with one I made on the computer. The Zorki 3 (Haven't used a 3M) needed a CLA and RF adjust. It has a nice fit and finish for a FSU camera, looks quite nice, has engraved shutter speeds and a great easy-to-use 1:1 Viewfinder.
Both have slow speeds down to 1 Second, top speeds of 1/1000, and a removeable back
The Zorki C runs from 1/25 to 1/500 and looks like a flat-topped leica III clone. It fits well in the pocket and uses a seperate rangefinder from its built in 50mm viewfinder.
Lenses in Leica Threa Mount (LTM) are numerous and easy to find on Ebay.
Thus far I have not mentioned Kievs... because I don't own one. I'll leave that to the experts 🙂
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