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Newbie got GAS, M2, now what lens?
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thomasw_
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Sanders; the 2,8 will give a look with hints of the feel of the older ltm elmar but it has the coatings that lend it a crisper, slightly tighter image w/o flaring hassles. though you wouldn't be losing the wonderful glow and grit of the elmar signature. being compact, it is a great collapsible lens for your m2. check the m-Mount group on flickr for many image samples of the lens options we are suggesting.
The Planar is an awesome modern lens, but I think you want a look it won't render. A type 2 lux or summarit or zm 50/1,5 might give you the rendering you desire if the compact elmar M 50/2,8 is not fast enough for your needs. I think you would like the blending of the classic and the modern that the rendering of the M mount Elmar 50/2,8 provides.
And since you bought a M2, have you given any thought to a 35mm focal length lens? That camera is wonderful with that focal length🙂
Good cheer, Thomas
The Planar is an awesome modern lens, but I think you want a look it won't render. A type 2 lux or summarit or zm 50/1,5 might give you the rendering you desire if the compact elmar M 50/2,8 is not fast enough for your needs. I think you would like the blending of the classic and the modern that the rendering of the M mount Elmar 50/2,8 provides.
And since you bought a M2, have you given any thought to a 35mm focal length lens? That camera is wonderful with that focal length🙂
Good cheer, Thomas
dshugar
RF newbie
Oh - thanks maggieo. I feel a bit under the weather myself!
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Congrats on the M2 Sanders. I have a classic v2 Summilux, a DR cron and recently also a classic 2.8 Elmar. Haven't used the Elmar yet, but the lux and the cron are wonderful. I think you should put a classic lens on a classic camera.
Blank288
Established
I use a 2,8/35 Summaron most on my M2. Great lens, and a classic too!
mfogiel
Veteran
Hi Sanders,
Assuming you'd like to get a distinctive, yet not a totally soft look, I just cannot stress more the fact that the C Sonnar is a unique portraiture tool. It performs at peak level between f2.8 and f4.0 and you can pull out distinctive "looks" depending on the type of film used.
Here, you can see a slideshow of C Sonnar shots, and if you look into photo dets you will find the mention of film used:
http://www.flickr.com/search/show/?q=C+Sonnar&w=59177039@N00
I have found it to be particularly delicate on BW 400 CN, and incredibly realistic on Agfa Scala, where it delivers metallic face textures.
Here's a private shot on BW 400 CN
Assuming you'd like to get a distinctive, yet not a totally soft look, I just cannot stress more the fact that the C Sonnar is a unique portraiture tool. It performs at peak level between f2.8 and f4.0 and you can pull out distinctive "looks" depending on the type of film used.
Here, you can see a slideshow of C Sonnar shots, and if you look into photo dets you will find the mention of film used:
http://www.flickr.com/search/show/?q=C+Sonnar&w=59177039@N00
I have found it to be particularly delicate on BW 400 CN, and incredibly realistic on Agfa Scala, where it delivers metallic face textures.
Here's a private shot on BW 400 CN
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Sanders McNew
Rolleiflex User
Well, it's been a week.
The M2 arrived. After shooting a II and a IIIa,
the M2 IS a TANK! My goodness, I'll have to
hire a Sherpa to lug it around for me on trips.
Lenses ...
I tried mounting my Summar w ith a Leitz adaptor
and that works well enough. Except the framelines
do no display so well. The 50mm verticals do not
appear, and the left 90mm vertical is visible. I can
hold the frame selector lever to compensate but
that seems kludgy. Is there a DIY adjustment to
fix this?
For the time being, I've bought a collapsible
Summicron from another RFF member and am
awaiting delivery on it. I don't know if it's the
answer, but if it worked for HCB, how bad can
it be?
I am also looking into the C Sonnar. I went
over to B+H yesterday -- they had the Planar
but not the Sonnar on display. I mounted the
Planar, and darn it, the frame lines do not
come up right with it mounted, either. This
time, the verticals displayed well, but the top
norizontal brigthtline did not come up with
the Planar mounted. Again, I could correct
by holding the frame selector lever.
Come to think of it, since the brightlines
showed differently for the Summar and the
Planar, is this an issue with the lens mounts
and not the camera? Or is this a commonplace
with M-series Leicas and I just have to get with
the program?
Sanders
The M2 arrived. After shooting a II and a IIIa,
the M2 IS a TANK! My goodness, I'll have to
hire a Sherpa to lug it around for me on trips.
Lenses ...
I tried mounting my Summar w ith a Leitz adaptor
and that works well enough. Except the framelines
do no display so well. The 50mm verticals do not
appear, and the left 90mm vertical is visible. I can
hold the frame selector lever to compensate but
that seems kludgy. Is there a DIY adjustment to
fix this?
For the time being, I've bought a collapsible
Summicron from another RFF member and am
awaiting delivery on it. I don't know if it's the
answer, but if it worked for HCB, how bad can
it be?
I am also looking into the C Sonnar. I went
over to B+H yesterday -- they had the Planar
but not the Sonnar on display. I mounted the
Planar, and darn it, the frame lines do not
come up right with it mounted, either. This
time, the verticals displayed well, but the top
norizontal brigthtline did not come up with
the Planar mounted. Again, I could correct
by holding the frame selector lever.
Come to think of it, since the brightlines
showed differently for the Summar and the
Planar, is this an issue with the lens mounts
and not the camera? Or is this a commonplace
with M-series Leicas and I just have to get with
the program?
Sanders
ferider
Veteran
Congrats, Sanders.
Sounds like a sticky frameline selector. Play with it a bit, maybe it fixes itself.
Or send it on a short trip to Youxin, he does a good job on an in-expensive
CLA. The Planar should bring up the right framelines, with the 35 it will
depend on the adapter you use.
Best,
Roland.
Sounds like a sticky frameline selector. Play with it a bit, maybe it fixes itself.
Or send it on a short trip to Youxin, he does a good job on an in-expensive
CLA. The Planar should bring up the right framelines, with the 35 it will
depend on the adapter you use.
Best,
Roland.
Joe
Established
The conventional wisdom re the M2(paragon of engineering mastery and streamlined exquisiteness) is that it wants a 35mm lens, preferably one that likes the nighttime.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Sent your M2 to Youxin Ye for a quick check and CLA, he works fast, good and not expensive. If you ever start thinking about a 35mm lens for your M2, don't dismiss the 35mm pre-ASPH Summilux....
Joe
Established
Oh yeah, owning a Leica is like owning a vintage sportscar---you give the mechanic a bottle of wine at Christmas.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Joe said:
Yeah but once the Leica is well serviced it runs and runs and runs and runs ... 🙂
thomasw_
Well-known
Sanders,
Sounds like an easily fixed alignment. As others have said, send it to Youxin Ye: you will not regret it.
And congratulations on the collapsible Summicron! Looking forward to seeing some of your work.
Good cheer,
Thomas
Sounds like an easily fixed alignment. As others have said, send it to Youxin Ye: you will not regret it.
And congratulations on the collapsible Summicron! Looking forward to seeing some of your work.
Good cheer,
Thomas
Sanders McNew
Rolleiflex User
ferider said:
Roland (and Joe and Thomas and Maddoc), thank you
for your suggestions. Roland, I do not think it is
sticking. It is where it wants to be, but where it wants
to be is the wrong place.
I was hoping to avoid a trip to the CLA guy. Is there
some way to make this adjustment on my own?
Sanders
Andrew3511
Established
BillP, I love your shot of the clock in Guildford, have looked at it many times and taken 2 or 3 very dull pictures without ever seeing this possibility - great composition. Was the toning done with digits or poison?
Andrew
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