imokruok
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From my reading of the press release, they're selling off personal film, but keeping commercial film? How do they plan on doing that? My understanding is that a lot of those films are in the same building and on the same lines!
Unless by commercial film, they mean X-ray and whatnot, and the movie film is part of the personal business.
Unless by commercial film, they mean X-ray and whatnot, and the movie film is part of the personal business.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Thanks, Colleen. Good to have direct information.
healyzh
Well-known
The same news was posted by "Kodak Professional" on facebook earlier.
Contarama
Well-known
Kodak is dead and gone just like Mr. Eastman...the death certificate reads suicide.
But what a run and to think they invented digital photography too.
But what a run and to think they invented digital photography too.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
We'll all see what happens as this process unfolds. And thank you, Roger, for the kind words. I'll keep checking in on this thread and as people have questions, I'll work with Audrey Jonckheer, who over sees all Film, Paper & Output Systems WW to see what answers we can get. If we can answer them, we will. If we can't, I'll tell you that as well.
Much obliged, thank you Colleen. Fingers crossed this turns out for the best.
joeswe
Well-known
@Colleen: Please clarify
@Colleen: Please clarify
I must admit I am confused by Colleen's remarks and Kodak's announcement today. Kodak says they will try to sell off their "personalized imaging" solutions, which would, according to Colleen, include still film products.
However, as some of you might remember, earlier this year, the "pro photography" film products (B&W, Potra, Ektar) were relocated under the commercial (B2B) segment of Kodak together with motion picture film and are now listed under "Photo Specialty Products".
And if we read Kodak's press release from today carefully it appears that "commercial film" is one segment of their business they are NOT going to sell at the moment.
"Kodak noted that in addition to the commercial, packaging and functional printing and enterprise services businesses, it also continues to own and operate the Consumer Inkjet, Entertainment Imaging, Commercial Film and Specialty Chemicals businesses, given the company’s expertise, capabilities and strong customer relationships in these markets, as well as their combined cash-generating capability."
So it would be great if Colleen could clarify, if Kodak sell only their remaining consumer film business and keep the pro film business (pro still and motion film) or if they are getting rid of the still film business (pro&consumer) altogether.
Thanks,
John
@Colleen: Please clarify
I must admit I am confused by Colleen's remarks and Kodak's announcement today. Kodak says they will try to sell off their "personalized imaging" solutions, which would, according to Colleen, include still film products.
However, as some of you might remember, earlier this year, the "pro photography" film products (B&W, Potra, Ektar) were relocated under the commercial (B2B) segment of Kodak together with motion picture film and are now listed under "Photo Specialty Products".
And if we read Kodak's press release from today carefully it appears that "commercial film" is one segment of their business they are NOT going to sell at the moment.
"Kodak noted that in addition to the commercial, packaging and functional printing and enterprise services businesses, it also continues to own and operate the Consumer Inkjet, Entertainment Imaging, Commercial Film and Specialty Chemicals businesses, given the company’s expertise, capabilities and strong customer relationships in these markets, as well as their combined cash-generating capability."
So it would be great if Colleen could clarify, if Kodak sell only their remaining consumer film business and keep the pro film business (pro still and motion film) or if they are getting rid of the still film business (pro&consumer) altogether.
Thanks,
John
thegman
Veteran
I'd say this could be the best news from Kodak in a while, or maybe the worst. Sold to the right buyer, and freed from the goliath of the rest of the company could become profitable and productive. We always hear that the film division was profitable, it would be nice to see an independent Kodak Film Company reporting profits and not losses.
Kodak has been surprisingly pro-active with Ektar and the new Portra line, who knows what they may do next.
I think if this is handled correctly, it has the potential to be great news for film photographers.
Kodak has been surprisingly pro-active with Ektar and the new Portra line, who knows what they may do next.
I think if this is handled correctly, it has the potential to be great news for film photographers.
oftheherd
Veteran
Thanks for the update Colleen. It is good to have someone close to this to keep us updated. It's just sad that it appears Kodak has squandered good chances to do better. I understand film is not the profit maker it used to be, but there is still a market. Oh well. Thanks again.
Damaso
Photojournalist
Colleen's a straight shooter...
London CDK
Member
@Joe
@Joe
Joe - to clarify, all still film, including the professional films, falls within the Personalized Imaging category and it part of the business that Kodak is considering selling (I realize that the content on the website causes confusion). Commercial film will remain in the Kodak portfolio.
@Joe
Joe - to clarify, all still film, including the professional films, falls within the Personalized Imaging category and it part of the business that Kodak is considering selling (I realize that the content on the website causes confusion). Commercial film will remain in the Kodak portfolio.
London CDK
Member
Looking into the chemistry question. Will get back to you.
Update: Photo Chemicals are included in a potential sale.
Update: Photo Chemicals are included in a potential sale.
Nothing "inside" about it. This has been all over the web all day. Thank god for Ilford and Fuji.
Show some respect. She was nice enough to come here, sign up, and offer to answer any questions. Perhaps the insider info Roger was referring to is that she is inside the company and not just some internet forum poster making assumptions based on a press release.
Roger Hicks
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Show some respect. She was nice enough to come here, sign up, and offer to answer any questions. Perhaps the insider info Roger was referring to is that she is inside the company and not just some internet forum poster making assumptions based on a press release.
That was, indeed, exactly what I meant, though I could have phrased it better.
Cheers,
R.
joeswe
Well-known
Joe - to clarify, all still film, including the professional films, falls within the Personalized Imaging category and it part of the business that Kodak is considering selling (I realize that the content on the website causes confusion). Commercial film will remain in the Kodak portfolio.
Thanks for clarifying, I appreciate your input here.
MrFujicaman
Well-known
Hmmmm...maybe they could sell their B &W paper coating machines to Efke ?
And could this mean that Kodachrome might be reborn from the ashes ?
As I understood it, Kodak said that Kodachrome was about 1% of their film business....now, to them that's not much volume,but for a smaller company,there could be enough volume to make money at it.
And could this mean that Kodachrome might be reborn from the ashes ?
As I understood it, Kodak said that Kodachrome was about 1% of their film business....now, to them that's not much volume,but for a smaller company,there could be enough volume to make money at it.
leicapixie
Well-known
TG there is digital, Ilford and Fuji.
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brainwood
Registered Film User
I just saw this story on the BBC website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19366113
Thankfully this thread has stopped any knee jerk reaction from me so I won't be buying an industrial freezer and remortgaging my house to buy up the last remaining Portra ;-0
I just hope they can find an interested buyer.
Chris
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19366113
Thankfully this thread has stopped any knee jerk reaction from me so I won't be buying an industrial freezer and remortgaging my house to buy up the last remaining Portra ;-0
I just hope they can find an interested buyer.
Chris
Gumby
Veteran
Thankfully this thread has stopped any knee jerk reaction from me so I won't be buying an industrial freezer and remortgaging my house to buy up the last remaining Portra ;-0
Perhaps some moderation instead... if you are wedded to Portra (or even just really like it) you might want to buy a bunch anyway befroe the prices go wonky. Don't risk your life's savings or anything, but...
Jamie123
Veteran
Perhaps some moderation instead... if you are wedded to Portra (or even just really like it) you might want to buy a bunch anyway befroe the prices go wonky. Don't risk your life's savings or anything, but...
That's the problem for me. I absolutely love Portra and I shoot it in 35mm, 120 and 4x5. It's basically all I use for my personal work. I'm really short on all three formats but unfortunately I'm just so tight for money right now that I can't afford to buy any film so I'm afraid I'll just have to wait and hope that it will be made for some time to come.
brainwood
Registered Film User
Perhaps some moderation instead... if you are wedded to Portra (or even just really like it) you might want to buy a bunch anyway befroe the prices go wonky. Don't risk your life's savings or anything, but..
My hope is that after reading this thread there is some assurance of continuity at least in the short term so no need to panic yet. I'm sure any future buyer will have a keen eye on the profitable bits and portra is very popular according to my non scientific ear to ground.
Chris
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