venchka
Veteran
Day 2 of Photokina. Did Fuji make any real announcement regarding this camera? Have samples on display? Anybody there? Anybody pick this camera up?
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Today (Tuesday 23 September) is the first full day.
Yesterday was for press only.
Stephen Gandy is there, and I think Roger Hicks also.
The GF670 is a very minor part of Fuji's exhibit, as evidenced that in a recent 8 page press release it merited just 3 lines at the bottom of page 8.
Yesterday was for press only.
Stephen Gandy is there, and I think Roger Hicks also.
The GF670 is a very minor part of Fuji's exhibit, as evidenced that in a recent 8 page press release it merited just 3 lines at the bottom of page 8.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I hope this camera sells like a hotcake in Japan. At about $1000, people in Japan will eat them up.
It even has a cool side-effect: Fuji will have more incentive to continue production of 120 roll films (I don't see Kodak's continuing interest in this).
It even has a cool side-effect: Fuji will have more incentive to continue production of 120 roll films (I don't see Kodak's continuing interest in this).
kuzano
Veteran
Ooops.. Sorry
Ooops.. Sorry
I messed with too many Zeiss folders. I forget that they make contemporary cameras..
Plus, I am a Fujifan, having six of them currently, and one a black Zi. My fourth Zi.
No intent to offend, and you are right about those price comparizons, not to mention the fact that the 35mm ZI shoots a negative that's 1/5th the size of the GF670 folder.
Ooops.. Sorry
I messed with too many Zeiss folders. I forget that they make contemporary cameras..
Plus, I am a Fujifan, having six of them currently, and one a black Zi. My fourth Zi.
No intent to offend, and you are right about those price comparizons, not to mention the fact that the 35mm ZI shoots a negative that's 1/5th the size of the GF670 folder.
kuzano
Veteran
Perhaps this is why distribution only Japan at first.
Perhaps this is why distribution only Japan at first.
Is there an implication that the Japanese consumer is shooting more film? It could mean that the production runs will be sucked up by the Japanese consumers rather readily?
Perhaps this is why distribution only Japan at first.
Is there an implication that the Japanese consumer is shooting more film? It could mean that the production runs will be sucked up by the Japanese consumers rather readily?
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
No, because there won't be a USD price, or EUR price, or a GBP price.
If you want this camera you'll need to pay for it in Japanese Yen at whatever the exchange rate is on the day.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
ath
Well-known
Fresh from Photokina:
1st pic from the Fuji booth, next to it was the Fuji version; 2nd pic from the voigtländer booth; the guy there had some informations:
120 and 220
Dual format: 6x6 and 6x7 via curtains (maybe this is only a masking of the 6x7? No details)
Expected to be available spring 2009, no price available.
1st pic from the Fuji booth, next to it was the Fuji version; 2nd pic from the voigtländer booth; the guy there had some informations:
120 and 220
Dual format: 6x6 and 6x7 via curtains (maybe this is only a masking of the 6x7? No details)
Expected to be available spring 2009, no price available.
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wlewisiii
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Oh my poor aching wallet! That is too pretty for words - a real Bessa from Mr K. How am I going to come up with the coins for this ... :bang: :bang: :bang: 
William
William
dazedgonebye
Veteran
It does 6x6?!?! Bessa Voigtlander branded?
Oh man...that makes it even more compelling. I'll never get away from film with something like this coming out.
I may have to sell my R3A/40mm Nokton for this.
Oh man...that makes it even more compelling. I'll never get away from film with something like this coming out.
I may have to sell my R3A/40mm Nokton for this.
luketrash
Trying to find my range
For some reason, I remember the prototype having a 60mm lens which is much more interesting to me than an 80mm lens.
Either way, I'm happy to see this thing becoming a reality!
Either way, I'm happy to see this thing becoming a reality!
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wlewisiii
Guest
I believe it was a 90mm on last years display - that would be the normal length for a 6x7 camera. 80 is normal for 6x6. I'm rather curious if it's a real heliar/dynar design or only heliar in name.
William
William
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
yay neat stuff! I want one!
No, i want two!
BTW: who said anything about "around $1K"? (besides the rumors)
neat stuff! I want one!No, i want two!
BTW: who said anything about "around $1K"? (besides the rumors)
ath
Well-known
pompadork
Established
So does the Bessa branding mean that it will be sold outside of Japan?
Ray Nalley
Well-known
I'm guessing closer to $2,000. Buyers of such a camera will not be price sensitive.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
i'm afraid i got to agree with Ray here.
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wlewisiii
Guest
DN - fixed lens. It's essentially impossible to have a high optical quality interchangable lens system. The best done was probably the Retina IIIc but still...
P- Since we'd heard the Fuji was Japan only, it's the VC for the rest of us ala Hassy & the XPan.
$2k? Alas, probably. Gotta figure out a way to afford this puppy.
William
P- Since we'd heard the Fuji was Japan only, it's the VC for the rest of us ala Hassy & the XPan.
$2k? Alas, probably. Gotta figure out a way to afford this puppy.
William
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
in theory, the bellows could be made for the normal lens (80mm), and make it interchangeable designing a retrofocus wide lens and a tele that both have the same flange to film distance as the normal. They would need to come with their own focusing helical, with some rf coupling, AND with own shutter, though. This makes them rather large for the folding mechanism, in medium format.
I guess it would be cheaper to make three slightly different bodies and glue those lenses on the bodies...
I guess it would be cheaper to make three slightly different bodies and glue those lenses on the bodies...
david b
film shooter
I'll be buying two.