goffer
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Just pre-ordered the NEX-7 on amazon... the waiting game begins.
NEX-7. Yeah baby, YEAH!
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claacct
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I like the almost muted (perhaps shocked?) response that NEX7 is getting (this thread is not moving much)... No one actually believed those renders and now its real and whats even more real is that cameras as we knew them have changed.
And NEX-7 looks so bloody cool and modern that one has to look cool and modern to actually carry one...
And NEX-7 looks so bloody cool and modern that one has to look cool and modern to actually carry one...
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fotomeow
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I preodered with my local camera shop, trying to keep the economic support local.
claacct: I totally agree, this is a game-changer.
claacct: I totally agree, this is a game-changer.
nightfly
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Nice body. Shame about the size of the lenses.
scho
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Sensor specs?
Sensor specs?
Does anyone know if the new 24 mp sensor in the Nex 7 has an AA filter or not? I was not that impressed with the image quality of the A77 sample images at DPR, but then again it might be just jpg compression or poor lens quality. I could not see any high frequency detail in the landscapes and images were very mushy looking.
Sensor specs?
Does anyone know if the new 24 mp sensor in the Nex 7 has an AA filter or not? I was not that impressed with the image quality of the A77 sample images at DPR, but then again it might be just jpg compression or poor lens quality. I could not see any high frequency detail in the landscapes and images were very mushy looking.
semordnilap
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More a shame about the selection of lenses, really...!!! But it sounds like the right camera. It's great that there are so many choices now, of new cameras with different designs. Imagine if a full-frame nex comes out in the not too distant future.
douglasf13
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There are a few things to consider about the IQ. The biggest issue is, like you said, Sony's jpeg's are never great for pixel peeping. Raw will be a completely different matter.
Also, the translucent mirror in the A77 not only reduces the amount of light hitting the sensor by about 1/2 stop, but it also robs resolution. Here is a great test to read about the mirror. http://thesybersite.com/sony/a55/index.htm#slt_mirror_image_quality
I don't expect the NEX-7 to be a jump in high ISO IQ, but it should be somewhat competitive with current sensors (especially when resized,) and the extra resolution will be great for me.
douglasf13
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I also wish they were smaller, but I think it's important to put them into perspective. They're still relatively small compared to a lot of other systems. Essentially, the kit zoom, 30 Macro, 24 Zeiss and 50/1.8 are all about the same size, and it isn't THAT bad:
Still, I'll stick with rangefinder lenses.
useless generation
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This looks awesome i might have to think about ordering one! Any official release date??
goffer
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First few weeks of October in the States, November in Japan; at least from what I have read.
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NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
Same question as I posted earlier: for using M-lenses what do you think would be better the NEX-7 or the Ricoh GXR M-Module, which is specially designed to use Leica M-lenses, with micro-lenses designed to optimize wide-angle, short distance to sensor M-lenses, and facility for adjusting corner rendition for specific lenses?
The attraction of the NEX-7 is 24MP vs the 12MP of the GXR M-Module and the built-in 2.4 million dot OLED EVP against a much lower quality clip-on EVP of the GXR M-Module. How does manual focusing compare?
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NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
Same question as I posted earlier: for using M-lenses what do you think would be better the NEX-7 or the Ricoh GXR M-Module, which is specially designed to use Leica M-lenses, with micro-lenses designed to optimize wide-angle, short distance to sensor M-lenses, and facility for adjusting corner rendition for specific lenses?
The attraction of the NEX-7 is 24MP vs the 12MP of the GXR M-Module and the built-in 2.4 million dot OLED EVP against a much lower quality clip-on EVP of the GXR M-Module. How does manual focusing compare?
—Mitch/Bangkok
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CK Dexter Haven
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I think the NEX-7 is also supposed to use micro-lenses.
For me, the 24MP is a major factor. I know it's fashionable to pooh-pooh the 'resolution wars,' but i'm content with my 5DM2's resolution, and would not consider a camera with 'half' as much. I don't want to think of the NEX as a camera for 'less important' situations.
Also, from what's being written, the dual top deck dial plus back panel dial are supposed to make for a very nice control situation. Oh, and Focus Peaking for mf lenses- that's a VERY nice innovation.
For me, the 24MP is a major factor. I know it's fashionable to pooh-pooh the 'resolution wars,' but i'm content with my 5DM2's resolution, and would not consider a camera with 'half' as much. I don't want to think of the NEX as a camera for 'less important' situations.
Also, from what's being written, the dual top deck dial plus back panel dial are supposed to make for a very nice control situation. Oh, and Focus Peaking for mf lenses- that's a VERY nice innovation.
goffer
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- The GXR module is developed for M glass so I'm assuming it might have a slight advantage, although Sony, this time around, has taken into account the use of adapted lens and thus has adapted the sensor for them.
-The EVF, at least on paper and initial reports, will be better than that of the GXR.
-I remember reading the GXR will have the same focus peaking feature so manual focus should be a similar experience.
-The EVF, at least on paper and initial reports, will be better than that of the GXR.
-I remember reading the GXR will have the same focus peaking feature so manual focus should be a similar experience.
The other advantage of NEX is being able to use the close focusing M adapter. For me this is huge...
The GXR will be limited to the standard close focus limit of the M lenses as far as I can determine.
The GXR will be limited to the standard close focus limit of the M lenses as far as I can determine.
jjcha
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I also wish they were smaller, but I think it's important to put them into perspective. They're still relatively small compared to a lot of other systems. Essentially, the kit zoom, 30 Macro, 24 Zeiss and 50/1.8 are all about the same size, and it isn't THAT bad:
Still, I'll stick with rangefinder lenses.
This photo helps puts things in perspective. I love my RD-1 + 35mm f1.2 for low light street shooting. But this is an extremely compelling and smaller package for similar situations. This is of course assuming everything else is great (EVF, controls, autofocus, flexibility etc).
douglasf13
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Agreed. MFD is a big difference with that adapter.
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I'm very attracted by the NEX-7 EVF, being built-in and high resolution, as I'm by the 24MP; but, as my main objective is to use my M-lenses as well the Voigtlaender 15 and Zeiss 18, the image quality based on the micro-lens design trumps everything. Although I was ready to get the GXR M-Module, considering I already have the GXR, I would still want to see whether the M-Module really does have an advantage in terms of image quality for M-lenses. Handling and user interface, at which the GXR excels, is also a factor, but the assignable 3-dials on the NEX-7 look good also.
What is "MFD".
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Leica0Series
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Has anyone confirmed that the Nex 7 has micro lenses? I don't care about the size of the Sony lenses because I would just plan to use Leica glass on it. I've seen lots of pre-release speculation about the presence of micro-lenses but nothing definitive since the release, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
semordnilap
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I don't know how the GXR M-module works, but I expect manual focussing with the NEX-7 will be easier. Between focus peaking and illumination of the focus point for easy confirmation, plus the visibility of the EVF in bright sun, I expect to be able to focus and manual lenses pretty easily.
We will see what comes in practice, and yes, the corner performance will be interesting to check out... I'll probably get on a waiting list at my local shop and try the camera out once it shows up.
Anyway this won't be the last of these cameras.
goffer
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