Have you seen the NEX C3 corner comparisons? Much improved over 3 and 5. 7 should have this as well.
semordnilap
Well-known
Yep... looks quite good. 1.5 crop is a little annoying, but livable. I actually like the high quality evfs–the A55 is quite nice to shoot with, and pretty easy to focus manually.
I may have to shell out for the 24/1.8, but we'll see if that happens. And that close focus M adapter will give me a host of awesome 75-e lenses, that's for sure!
I may have to shell out for the 24/1.8, but we'll see if that happens. And that close focus M adapter will give me a host of awesome 75-e lenses, that's for sure!
Hatch
Established
Yep, for me it's goodbye DSLR.
It can take all my lenses, it's compact and shoot's anything.
The cons of an EVF don't really bother me, pre visualization is needed with film as well and it's small enough to take everywhere.
As a P/S I'll just attach the 16 mm ( mine seems to be on the sharp end) and crop.
With 24 MP there's enough detail for that.
It can take all my lenses, it's compact and shoot's anything.
The cons of an EVF don't really bother me, pre visualization is needed with film as well and it's small enough to take everywhere.
As a P/S I'll just attach the 16 mm ( mine seems to be on the sharp end) and crop.
With 24 MP there's enough detail for that.
semordnilap
Well-known
Agreed... for me this will be, as you said, high iso with M lenses, plus video with M lenses. And maybe that 24/1.8, too...
I was speaking of sensor technology. The M8 and RD1 are ancient now and long out of warranty. The M8 is not proving to be all that reliable in its old age, either despite the supposed build quality...M8 prices have been steady for a while now, but they should drop quite a lot when the 7 is out.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
I'm sure Sony could implement a digital rangefinder patch as an alternative mf focusing aid for optical rangefinder users. It would simply be a different type of focus peaking representation. Easy-Peasy.
I think the fact that two outdated digital cameras still sell for a premium should let you know that many people still believe these cameras are great... despite leaps in technology. The fact is that these cameras are the closest you are going to get in a digital camera to a film camera. That is why they succeed. The NEX-7 will have no impact on the pricing of the M8 or the R-D1.
Why is the M8 not reliable?
Paul T.
Veteran
How? A rangefinder patch depends on triangulation, which requires the image to be captured by two sensors; this camera has just one. (This thread is sounding a little like the X100 one!)
Incidentally, while this camera looks pretty good, its 1.5 crop means it's more likely to hit R-D1 values than the M-8, even disregarding the VF issue.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
I was just postulating. Maybe the software could take a sample of some user-defined rectangle and overlay it based on focus data taken from the peaking function?
Hatch
Established
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Paul T.
Veteran
Lots of Deja Vu in this thread!
(can't wait to hear more about that Zeiss lens... good to see Sony making use of this alliance, I hope they team up for a proper D-RF)
(can't wait to hear more about that Zeiss lens... good to see Sony making use of this alliance, I hope they team up for a proper D-RF)
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Well-known
NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
As I have a Ricoh GXR (ands si Leica-M lenses) my choice is the Ricoh M-Module or the NEX-7 with an adapter. The issues will be which is better for manual focus and which deals better with corner problems on wide-angle lenses. The GXR M-Module has an elaborate micro-lens design and a facility for adjustments for specific lenses. I don't know whether the NEX-7 has any of this. Any thoughts?
But the NEX-7 built-in 2.4 million dot EVF and the Sony 24MP sensor sound compelling.
—Mitch/Bangkok
Rainy Season
NEX-7 vs Ricoh GXR M-Module
As I have a Ricoh GXR (ands si Leica-M lenses) my choice is the Ricoh M-Module or the NEX-7 with an adapter. The issues will be which is better for manual focus and which deals better with corner problems on wide-angle lenses. The GXR M-Module has an elaborate micro-lens design and a facility for adjustments for specific lenses. I don't know whether the NEX-7 has any of this. Any thoughts?
But the NEX-7 built-in 2.4 million dot EVF and the Sony 24MP sensor sound compelling.
—Mitch/Bangkok
Rainy Season
kshapero
South Florida Man
Close focus adapter? Is this some kind of new adapter?
kshapero
South Florida Man
Besides the hullabaloo on the 7, the new 5 also looks awesome. Touchscreen, EVF just to name a few.
Sure, many people take great photos with these cameras.
For anyone who wants to use M lenses on digital with a reasonable crop factor, these are the only choices: M8, RD1, and NEX. Used top condition RD1s have been about $1200 for a while now, with 6mp and 1.5x crop. I don't see many people spending that amount when they can get a $1200 NEX with 24mp, much higher ISO, and the same crop with a new warranty. Not to mention using the close focus M adapter which can't be used on the RD1. Pretty much the same goes for the M8.
I can't answer as to the reasons why the M8 isn't reliable. I certainly would not buy one without an extended warranty, and even then if it does break it will take many weeks to repair, as there is only one vendor that can repair it.
Kent
Finally at home...
There is an M adapter with a close focusing helical...completely transforms using M lenses on NEX. It's fantastic.
jpfisher
Well-known
Yeah, recently on the market -- it's an M to NEX adapter with a heliocoid, so you can move the lens further away from the sensor. Locked down in place it acts as a normal adapter, giving you 0.7m-infinity or 1m-infinity (depending on the lens). But then move it out a bit and you gain close focus capability, but lose infinity focus.
Haven't used one yet -- they run for around $200 on eBay -- but it looks like a nice design. Definitely better than having to swap out an adapter to go between close focus and normal operation.