New York Next NYC Meet-Up: 25 April 2010

You're most welcome, Cal. It's a shame to let good film go bad (if so a thing can happened). I'm sorry I missed the meetup. I was off in Charleston looking busy for a few days.

I'm in for the next one, though.

Three M9's would of been awesome at the Meet-Up. I kinda hung out with the digital guys and learned a lot about color management and got some smut on how a M9 compares to a M8.

Although I am primarily analog/B&W guy who wants to shoot a lot of film and is really a cheap *******/gear head, the color management will be useful for some planned/upcoming night shooting using color film that will be happening shortly.

Kinda makes sense to me: shoot B&W during the day; and color at night. Am I confused as usual?

Jeff, John and John helped me out greatly.

Cal
 
Kinda makes sense to me: shoot B&W during the day; and color at night. Am I confused as usual?

Cal

I don't think that really matters. I've seen great B&W night photos. I would choose your film type for the same reasons you choose it during the day. That said, I prefer color at night.
 
I don't think that really matters. I've seen great B&W night photos. I would choose your film type for the same reasons you choose it during the day. That said, I prefer color at night.

Now I'm really confused. I guess what's most important is to have at least film in the camera. LOL.

For me B&W is easier and less complicated. I'm trying not to be a lazy slacker.

Cal
 
For me, night photography is always experimentation and always turns out a little strange. I guess some people like Tungsten balanced films, but I never cared. It depends on what you want. That said, I've never been one to do 20 minute exposures. I'm always closer to 30 sec -1 minute for the night objects I choose.
 
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Could not make it, although I had planned to. Who knew a non-walking non-talking newborn could be such a pia..(loving every minute) :)
Hopefully next time..
Im also planning to do some night stuff around my neighborhood, choosing a film isnt the priority, Im trying to figure out how to do it and avoid getting mugged or killed..:)
 
Great write up Cal, it was like being there! I probably won't be around for the May meet up so I hope Cal is there to take copious notes...
 
Fidel: Congratulations! I do hope to see you at some point at a meet-up.

I want to gave a mention to Rachel for the story of her M8 taking an unscheduled dive (thankfully fresh-water); thing is, it was around her neck at the time, so both camera and owner took a serious bath, and thankfully survived, although the M8 required a bit of resuscitation afterward.

To paraphrase an old Ballantine Beer* jingle: hey, friends, let's do it again!

(*If you're at least close to my age and a native NY'er, you've heard it.)


- Barrett
 
Could not make it, although I had planned to. Who knew a non-walking non-talking newborn could be such a pia..(loving every minute) :)
Hopefully next time..
Im also planning to do some night stuff around my neighborhood, choosing a film isnt the priority, Im trying to figure out how to do it and avoid getting mugged or killed..:)


Fidel, Sorry you couldn't make it, but having a baby is a new kinda high. Congrats again.

The key to safety is to not do it alone, otherwise its not worth the risk. I'd offer to go to Newark, but I'd still have to take the PATH alone. The NYC subway is at least familure and I feel somewhat safer BTW. I'm not afraid to take the subway alone three or four oclock in the morning by myself, although my girlfriend will probably not allow it to happen again.

A funny story is one night I got off the L train at in the Italian Section of Williamsburg close to four in the morning and was mistaken for a girl. There were multible attacks happening at that time where a rapist pushed yuppy girls into doorways where they would be raped and robbed.

Kinda easy to mistaken me for a girl from behind because at 5'10'' 150 pounds with narrow shoulders and with my long hair not in a ponytail it is not hard to imagine something hot with long legs. Also I was wearing shoe boots so I looked extra lanky and my walk went clop-clop just like a woman in heels. I also had a camera bag, so it would appear like I even had a pocketbook.

I'm out on the deserted main drag, when I hear someone running at full speed coming from behind me. Earlier, when I had gotten off the subway I was the only person leaving the station, and I knew I was F@#Ked and in serious trouble, but I also an extra heavy monopod that was for a video camera I was carrying.

I got ready to swing for the fences without revealing I was armed with a deadly weapon. The element of surprise was also on my side. It was lightly raining and I was also holding an umbrella in my other hand. At the appropiate time I turned and swung, when the footsteps were almost upon me.

You should of seen the guys face. I think he was more surprised to see my arrogant chin beard than the club swinging towards his face. He was lucky and rather short. I guess I was expecting a guy as tall as me, but the sidewalk was wide, and he kept on running. "Sorry," he said before rounding the first corner.

Months later they caught the guy. He had attacked around two dozen women. It was reported that the police had problems catching this rapist because he had once lived in the area for many years, knew it extensively, but no longer lived there.

The reason I was out late that night is that this guitar player, Steve Marshall, had called me to video two gigs he had; one was at LeBat Bar on 57th Street in mid-town; and the other was Hogs And Heffers in East Harlem. I did not know Steve Marshall before he called me out of the blue. He had gotten my number from a horn player from another band who I knew.

Steve Marshall and his "Deputies" I would later learn is an urban legend. Seems like he recruits "Deputies" from every audiance at every gig to be Go-Go girls, but one night things got out of control. It seems some real pro strippers were in the audiance and they went to work and put on a real show as the band played the thyme song from Gypsy Rose. "I almost got arrested," Steve Marshall told me.

Moral of the story: When you are attacked, use your weapon.

Calzone
 
Great write up Cal, it was like being there! I probably won't be around for the May meet up so I hope Cal is there to take copious notes...

Have a great time shooting in Europe, you lucky dog.

Come back safe. Perhaps in June we'll catch up.

Cal
 
For me, night photography is always experimentation and always turns out a little strange. I guess some people like Tungsten balanced films, but I never cared. It depends on what you want. That said, I've never been one to do 20 minute exposures. I'm always closer to 30 sec -1 minute for the night objects I choose.

The last time I did twenty minute exposures is pinhole photography, years ago.

I say currently 2-3 minutes, but that would have to be a very dark night, probably in the woods, and not in NYC. We'll talk some more.

What takes time is bracketing a shot.

Cal

Cal
 
cal, I have always considered my M's as potential defensive weapons. while I wouldn't exactly relish the thought of spoiling a perfectly good camera on some knucklehead's noggin, I'd do it if it was a matter of life and death. and, I'm sure it would leave quite a dent. knowing how big your pro video gear must be, I'm sure you looked rather menacing when you spun around. that, and the disappointment that you indeed were not a hottie surely must have spoiled this guy's day. glad the constabulary finally got him of the street.

one certainly does see some odd behavior in NYC. this past weekend my wife and I saw a guy walking down sixth ave at 14th in the midst of a crowd with his pants open and polishing his prong rather vigorously. clearly a little mentally disturbed, as he seemed completely oblivious to his surroundings. yup, there are eight million stories in the naked city.

be careful out there.

fidel, congrats on the new baby. enjoy. they grow up really fast.

damaso, enjoy your european jaunt.
 
this past weekend my wife and I saw a guy walking down sixth ave at 14th in the midst of a crowd with his pants open and polishing his prong rather vigorously. clearly a little mentally disturbed, as he seemed completely oblivious to his surroundings.

Did you take the photo or did you decide against it?
 
I would have taken a photo, but I wasn't quick enough. I was not interested enough to follow anyone that creepy, but if my timing were better I wouldn't have hesitated to click.

when I can, I shoot what I see. I if miss something, I get over it. Life's too short to fret over the shots we didn't take.

I certainly wouldn't have felt I was invading his privacy since choking one's chicken in the middle of a crowded avenue is hardly private. the offending body part was not visible, but the act in question was unmistakable with his zipper down and his hand doing its thing through his fly. I'm not quite sure how he managed to walk as well as did for the awkward gait this gave him. Anyway, it's NYC where everyone is slightly psychically off kilter.
 
Anyway, it's NYC where everyone is slightly psychically off kilter.

More interesting than the Lawn Guy Land suburbs where I grew up. Also we pay extra for the danger, thrill, excitement and entertainment value.

Much better when I see a woman publicly masturbate in the street (Upper East Side).

Cal
 
when I can, I shoot what I see. I if miss something, I get over it. Life's too short to fret over the shots we didn't take.

I agree... I also don't get upset if I don't have a camera with me ... like winogrand said in this article:

http://www.photogs.com/bwworld/winogrand.html

"as he reloaded, I asked him if he felt bad about missing pictures when he reloaded. "No," he replied, "there are no pictures when I reload."
 
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