Can someone explain to me please , why does it seem that in everyones regard Ricoh gr1 is better or at least as good as all the other equivalents and yet is much cheaper (or the others seem to keep being overpriced) ? I can't seem to figure it out.
Hmmm, let's see.
The Nikons were expensive ($1000) when they were released.
The 28ti version didn't sell as well as the 35ti.
The Nikon is sexier (than the GR) to many people.
The 35ti isn't more expensive than the GR right now.
The 28ti is more rare than the GR.
The GR has a cult following and seems to be for sale all of the time on ebay i.e. there is supply.
The GR21 is more expensive than the GR, 35ti, and 28ti combined.
dave lackey
Veteran
Nobody wants to sell me their 28ti?![]()
Last I looked, KEH had one! Both a 28 and a 35...
whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
Jsrockit,
Sent you a PM.
Sent you a PM.
Jamie123
Veteran
I had the 35Ti for a while and while it was a pretty nice camera, in the end it was just too bulky and slow for my taste. I just kept reaching for my Olympus mji-ii (epic) or my Yashica T4.
The Rcoh GR1 on the other hand seems like it would make for a great little p&s. Not only does it offer the 28mm focal length but it also looks like it's reasonably light and compact. If I ever stumble upon one for a good price I'll have to get it.
The Rcoh GR1 on the other hand seems like it would make for a great little p&s. Not only does it offer the 28mm focal length but it also looks like it's reasonably light and compact. If I ever stumble upon one for a good price I'll have to get it.
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
I have both the 35ti and a Ricoh GR1S. The Nikon has an absolutely fantastic lens -- everything you've read is true. The matrix metering on the Nikon is also light years beyond most other p&s cameras. Also, the retro analog dials are unique and it has a pretty good viewfinder.
That said, it's a bulky titanium brick and a bit of an ergonomic bad dream. It's a bit too big to be a truly pocketable camera, and the tiny flash on/off buttons are really annoying. It also has a noticeable shutter lag ... the autofocus is definitely not the quickest I've encountered.
Despite these shortcomings, I still really like the 35ti. But if I'm going to be out for a casual walk or running errands, I usually grab my Stylus Epic or the Ricoh GR1S ... they are so small and comfortable to carry you barely notice them.
That said, it's a bulky titanium brick and a bit of an ergonomic bad dream. It's a bit too big to be a truly pocketable camera, and the tiny flash on/off buttons are really annoying. It also has a noticeable shutter lag ... the autofocus is definitely not the quickest I've encountered.
Despite these shortcomings, I still really like the 35ti. But if I'm going to be out for a casual walk or running errands, I usually grab my Stylus Epic or the Ricoh GR1S ... they are so small and comfortable to carry you barely notice them.
G
Guest
Guest
I know this an old conversation point but for anyone who wants to purchase a used 35TI, think again HONESTLY. May be a good camera for many people but when they have a failure with it, all they will end up with is a paper weight. Sent mine back to Nikon repair after only eleven rolls through it in ten years, the shutter is bust and there are no spare parts. The camera is like new on the outside $1000 camera when they first came out, I paid $550 and wasted every penny so it would seem.
Have three Hasselblads, two Leica M series, Super Ikonta, Rollei 35se and three NIKON lumps of rubbish. The only cameras that have caused me problems are the NIKON, two of them now can not be repaired. I even purchased a NIKON 8000 ED scanner and that went bad under warranty. No more NIKON products for me, simply put, they seem to have a short term disposable view of their product, in my opinion.
So 35TI and no doubt the 28TI have very few spare parts left, Rolls Royce can still repair every car they have made.
Have three Hasselblads, two Leica M series, Super Ikonta, Rollei 35se and three NIKON lumps of rubbish. The only cameras that have caused me problems are the NIKON, two of them now can not be repaired. I even purchased a NIKON 8000 ED scanner and that went bad under warranty. No more NIKON products for me, simply put, they seem to have a short term disposable view of their product, in my opinion.
So 35TI and no doubt the 28TI have very few spare parts left, Rolls Royce can still repair every car they have made.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Can someone explain to me please , why does it seem that in everyones regard Ricoh gr1 is better or at least as good as all the other equivalents and yet is much cheaper (or the others seem to keep being overpriced) ? I can't seem to figure it out.
Nikon Ti attracts collectors.
Ricoh GR1 attracts photographers who wants to use it.
One group is willing to pay for condition and looks, the other is willing to wait for bargains
That reminds me, after 10 rolls, my GR1s need a new battery.
David_Manning
Well-known
Oh boy...I'm going off-topic and I'm sure to upset somebody...but I'm astounded by the technical quality I'm getting from my Contax T3 and it's Zeiss T* 35/2.8 Sonnar lens. I've been reaching for it instead of my M6 and 35/2 for a few weeks now, with no regrets (except the large Leica viewfinder).
And with a few accessories, it's like a mini-system...
Taken off the first test-roll...
And with a few accessories, it's like a mini-system...

Taken off the first test-roll...

whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
I rate the T3 as the best point and shoot ever made. Number 2 for me is the Nikon 35 ti. Absolute perfect optics in both.
Nikon 35 ti
Nikon 35 ti

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