Nikon D4 is coming....

Well, nice camera that D4. Won't be interested for the same reason I did not buy any of the D3 series, just overkill for what I need. Too much dough, too heavy and too many other things I don't need. OTH for a working pro probable interesting. The D800 might be more to my liking but I would appreciate something like the upcoming Fuji more but from Nikon. Love the D700 but it is already at the limit of what I am prepared to hump around weight/size wise.

Bob
 
I've owned 1 for about 4 months & shoot a lot in low light. In fact, the main reason why I got the D700 was to get a usable ISO 3200-6400. Yes, it's possible to manually focus, but, IMHO, it sucks compared to any of the pro bodies from the pre-autofocus era, even compared to an 1959 F w/a plain prism. Same goes for the D3 & comparable Canon models v. the old F-1, etc. And none of the old SLRs are as easy (for me) to use in low light, even w/an f/1.4 lens, as any Leica M body. I've thought about using a brighter focus screen like JSU & others, but haven't made any final decisions.

Modern autofocus is great for those who like/need it, but the bottom line is that autofocus bodies, just like the lenses, are not optimized for manual focus.

fbf said:
Have you tried one yet?
I used d700 for a year and half. I used it exclusively with manual focus lenses(nikkor,zeiss,cv). Never had any problems focusing in low light.
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I´m confused, is this a camera or a computer?

To many buttons for my taste, what happen to ISO, shutter, aperture, focus and shoot?
 
totifoto said:
I´m confused, is this a camera or a computer?

To many buttons for my taste, what happen to ISO, shutter, aperture, focus and shoot?
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It is a computer accessory like a printer.

If you prefer to take your own pictures, instead of some Nikon engineer, may I suggest a Nikon F2, F3 or a nice Leica M2 etc.
 
totifoto said:
I´m confused, is this a camera or a computer?

To many buttons for my taste, what happen to ISO, shutter, aperture, focus and shoot?
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I agree about the buttons... but all of those functions are there if you need them. Plus, the frame is the most important part of a camera... that hasn't gone anywhere.
 
You're free to use and enjoy whatever you like. But, none of those products were built by you personally. Your preference does not automatically invalidate everything else out there nor does make statements like "Nikon engineers take photos on your behalf" true.
D4 is a high-end pro camera, definitely not built with film aficionados in mind. What you find to be a "printer" (buttons) working modern PROs find absolutely essential.
 
Phantomas said:
Your preference does not automatically invalidate everything else out there nor does make statements like "Nikon engineers take photos on your behalf" true.
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I'm not sure why you would assume from what I've stated that I "invalidate everything else out there". I certainly don't. If I were a professional or simply had the scratch, I'd likely buy a camera like the "D4" or what ever replaces it in the near future.

I am responding to totifoto, whose query "To many buttons for my taste, what happen to ISO, shutter, aperture, focus and shoot?" prompted my suggestion.
The new cameras do seem to insist on automating everything they can, When a geezer, such as myself, is confronted with such automation the solution is buy a nice reliable relic and take pictures with it.
 
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literiter said:
I'm not sure why you would assume from what I've stated that I "invalidate everything else out there". I certainly don't. If I were a professional or simply had the scratch, I'd likely buy a camera like the F4 or what ever replaces it in the near future.

I am responding to totifoto, whose query "To many buttons for my taste, what happen to ISO, shutter, aperture, focus and shoot?" prompted my suggestion.
The new cameras do seem to insist on automating everything they can, When a geezer, such as myself, is confronted with such automation the solution is buy a nice reliable relic and take pictures with it.
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Well, your post was comparing a pro camera to computer peripherals. I try to respect other people's choice and expect same in return. Statements comparing camera to a printer and claiming most of the jobs are done by engineers is insulting to people that rely on this camera. Yes, cameras have advanced enormously and allow for greater automation, but that doesn't negate photographers effort to get a worthy picture. By the same romantic logic we should all be shooting a shoebox with a little pinhole, coz you know, that thing has no buttons and is thus most pure.

F4 - naah, not even that. Modern day pros REQUIRE all that ISO, all that connectivity all that video and all those FPS. They need all those bells and whistles to stay competitive. I interact with a lot of pros. If you are a sports shooter you need to have several remotely controllable cameras at an event plus connectivity to send them out instantly. If you are a journo you need video because publishers are cutting budget and stuff so the journos need to provide photos, videos AND written words for an event. All those guys NEED all those bells and whistles. Shooting with F4 won't cut it, other than your personal enjoyment.

Don't take it personal. I just see this type of logic thrown around way too often and find statements like "engineers take your photos" as flawed as those ignorant noobs who assume that a better camera automatically means better photos.

I hope you enjoy your gear. I also love shooting film on a variety of cameras, but at the same time I do not dismiss nor D4 nor a shoebox with a pinhole - they all have their uses and advantages.
 
Finally, a suitable replacement for my D40! Although my D40 can flash sync at 1/1000 so maybe I'll wait for the D5. And a winning lottery ticket. 😛

Adam
 
Phantomas said:
F4 - naah, not even that. Modern day pros REQUIRE all that ISO, all that connectivity all that video and all those FPS. They need all those bells and whistles to stay competitive.

Shooting with F4 won't cut it, other than your personal enjoyment.
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I wrote F4, which was a error. I meant to write D4. Insert D4, where I wrote F4.
 
Anyone who can't figure out the workings of the modern DSLR along with mobile phones , blue ray players, GPS etc etc needs to get up to speed and realise we're going forward with technology ... not backward!

Learn to live with it ... or maybe for the future start thinking about finding yourself an analog re-enactment group where all the members can dress up in period costumes and charge about with their old Nikon Fs!

😀
 
literiter said:
Or maybe you have to learn basic mechanical skills instead of having some gadget do the work for you.

Good grief....get over it.
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Or alternately show enough forsight to realise that these gadgets (DSLRs) still have the capability of being used totally manually if you have half a brain!
 
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