yanidel
Well-known
As a general rule of thumb, you can assume the price in Euros in France = Price in dollars in the US + a little something. So 2800 euros should be in the 2800$-3000$ ballpark.
The difference is due to higher taxes, smaller market, higher labor costs, bla bla bla ... right explanations but frustrating
The difference is due to higher taxes, smaller market, higher labor costs, bla bla bla ... right explanations but frustrating
Athos6
Tao Master
The d700 would mean a lighter package for me, I could leave my F3hp at home, my wide angles would be taken care of. Ligher also because I'll have no other gear 
I'm not a manly man but I've never felt the weight was an issue, heck I've carried an M2, D200, and F3hp and most of my lenses to my, and my sister-in-laws college graduation and didn't feel that weight was an issue, now space, thats a different story, I needed a bigger bag...
I'm not a manly man but I've never felt the weight was an issue, heck I've carried an M2, D200, and F3hp and most of my lenses to my, and my sister-in-laws college graduation and didn't feel that weight was an issue, now space, thats a different story, I needed a bigger bag...
Ade-oh
Well-known
Oddly enough, being a member of RFF has largely cured me of my 'gear acquisition syndrome'. I can't see myself replacing my D200 any time soon and if I do, I will be looking at the consumer end of the Nikon DSLR catalogue. An FX camera the size (and price) of a D40 would suit me nicely.
Avotius
Some guy
I just saw the news on dpreview, it looks like a killer camera. I am becoming more and more unamused with my 20D and its aging problems, while it was a good working camera, its about time it went out to stud. Plus my canon 50 1.4 is having numerous focusing problems and I am still not convinced the 17-40 is a good lens, at least after having used the zeiss and leica lenses for a while.
And though I would have to wait for probably a year or so before upgrading to my next digital something (really hoping it would be a nikon DRF though) I will just have to make do now, a really decent digital is going to be needed for my upcoming studio, and in this game 8 MP is like APS film.
And though I would have to wait for probably a year or so before upgrading to my next digital something (really hoping it would be a nikon DRF though) I will just have to make do now, a really decent digital is going to be needed for my upcoming studio, and in this game 8 MP is like APS film.
EmilGil
Well-known
As usual, the Swedish RRP is the American one multiplied by 10 (even though the SEK/USD rate is less than 6). Anybody got $4300 to spare??? :bang:
I bought my D300 6 weeks ago and I'm ever as happy with that one. Even though the D700 has some nice specs, it's slightly too expensive for me right now and I can't see that price tag bringing any features that I've come to miss so far. The Virtual Horizon thingy would be nice but it's not that hard to live without it. I just came back from some bird photography on the Norwegian west coast and I had more use of the 1.5x factor on the tele side than I would have had use of my wide angles on full frame. I guess I'll keep my D300 now and look at the successors of both D300 and D700 when it's time to upgrade.
I bought my D300 6 weeks ago and I'm ever as happy with that one. Even though the D700 has some nice specs, it's slightly too expensive for me right now and I can't see that price tag bringing any features that I've come to miss so far. The Virtual Horizon thingy would be nice but it's not that hard to live without it. I just came back from some bird photography on the Norwegian west coast and I had more use of the 1.5x factor on the tele side than I would have had use of my wide angles on full frame. I guess I'll keep my D300 now and look at the successors of both D300 and D700 when it's time to upgrade.
IGMeanwell
Well-known
http://nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Digital-SLR/25444/D700.html
Looks like a champ to me ... though it is expensive it will be a camera the wedding pros will be chomping at the bit for
The image of the Female Lion in that gallery is at ISO1250, I don't care if its a smaller image that is impressive image quality
So to what some have been posting, if there is going to be a smaller full frame or perhaps an APS-C compact, I don't think it will come from Nikon
Nikon still has another camera to release at Photokina (perhaps two), their concentration seems to be at the professional level, as opposed to last year which concentrated on bringing in the beginner and amateur crowd.
Especially with the introduction of the super telephotos and now the full line of tilt-shift lenses... they are obviously catering to the professional landscape, sports photographers, and with the high iso performance; wedding photographers.
They just need their High Megapixel Full frame to complete the professional line (the much rumored D3X)
This being a photokina year ... expect to see many many camera releases in the next two months as well as some mysteries that will be revealed in september
but for Nikon this will satisfy many who wanted a bridge between the D300 and D3
Looks like a champ to me ... though it is expensive it will be a camera the wedding pros will be chomping at the bit for
The image of the Female Lion in that gallery is at ISO1250, I don't care if its a smaller image that is impressive image quality
So to what some have been posting, if there is going to be a smaller full frame or perhaps an APS-C compact, I don't think it will come from Nikon
Nikon still has another camera to release at Photokina (perhaps two), their concentration seems to be at the professional level, as opposed to last year which concentrated on bringing in the beginner and amateur crowd.
Especially with the introduction of the super telephotos and now the full line of tilt-shift lenses... they are obviously catering to the professional landscape, sports photographers, and with the high iso performance; wedding photographers.
They just need their High Megapixel Full frame to complete the professional line (the much rumored D3X)
This being a photokina year ... expect to see many many camera releases in the next two months as well as some mysteries that will be revealed in september
but for Nikon this will satisfy many who wanted a bridge between the D300 and D3
kshapero
South Florida Man
I will be hiring an assistant to help me carry it.
kipkeston
Well-known
Sad, nikon still can't give me what I want, FX with wide fast primes.
Colman
Established
Huh. Looks like the DSLR I've been waiting for them to produce, but I think I may wait a while at that price!
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
I'm saving for one now. Nikon has finally made a DSLR that I wanted for many years. While I am saving, I look forward to what photokina may bring. There might be some options there.
Bob
Bob
chikne
Well-known
What's the big deal? The 5D has been available for a few years already...
infrequent
Well-known
isn't that part of the problem? finally nikon has something that blows any current canon offering out of the water. canon have sort of rested on their laurels. this should prompt them into action.
IGMeanwell
Well-known
Well for Canon users... its not
For Nikon users its a very big deal and its got some amazing technology to back it up... clean up to ISO6400 ... smaller than the D3 and less expensive (admittedly still expensive)
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
It's the same thing every time. The ultimate digital camera will only arrive when a completely new technology takes over digital. For the time being Canon and Nikon will tumble over each other releasing NEW, IMPROVED, ULTIMATE, TOP NOTCH digitals about every year. People who think that the ultimate camera has finally arrived, sure, go ahead and sell your Leica gear. But be warned that you will be sorry you did so two years from now when your D700 will bring a lot less than the RF gear you sold today.
Matt White
Member
The last time a 5D guy told me that real photographers ought to use full frame cameras, I said I had lots of them, and they all have interchangeable sensors.
Got to say, though, that this looks fantastic. It's good too see Nikon competing so hard across the full range. I wish I could justify buying one, but my primary use for DSLRs is with long lenses and small birds. I'd hate to give up the D300's ability to pack 500mm lens images with 750mm-worth of pixels. So somehow I have to persuade myself I need a D700 *as well as* a D300. Tough job.
And I still really, really want in-body stabilisation.
Got to say, though, that this looks fantastic. It's good too see Nikon competing so hard across the full range. I wish I could justify buying one, but my primary use for DSLRs is with long lenses and small birds. I'd hate to give up the D300's ability to pack 500mm lens images with 750mm-worth of pixels. So somehow I have to persuade myself I need a D700 *as well as* a D300. Tough job.
And I still really, really want in-body stabilisation.
kipkeston
Well-known
It really shouldn't be such a big deal to the people on this forum. They're completely neglecting fast wide primes and nobody seems to care. It's absurd.
Toby
On the alert
Let's have a sweep stake on what day the first D700 vs M8 thread is posted!
M. Valdemar
Well-known
What's all this disparaging nay-saying for?
It's got phenomenal high ISO performance. It meters with AIS manual lenses. (this allows thousands of Nikkor and non-Nikkor lenses to be used, plenty of fast wides.). It's full frame.
I'm happy to see Nikon back at the top of their game and hitting a home run. I've liked Nikon cameras since I was a small boy. I scrimped, saved, traded and moved mountains to get a Nikon F with a F Photomic finder. I was 12.
I've got a Canon 5D and my only complaint is that it's a little heavy. It gets heavier as I get older.
What a bunch of aging grumblers. The D700 looks great. If you don't like it don't buy one.
Yes, we know how clever you all are. Ha ha ha. Your film cameras are marvelous, you can swap "sensors" (film), and you don't like these new-fangled gadgets. Bully for you. I guess you told them.
It's got phenomenal high ISO performance. It meters with AIS manual lenses. (this allows thousands of Nikkor and non-Nikkor lenses to be used, plenty of fast wides.). It's full frame.
I'm happy to see Nikon back at the top of their game and hitting a home run. I've liked Nikon cameras since I was a small boy. I scrimped, saved, traded and moved mountains to get a Nikon F with a F Photomic finder. I was 12.
I've got a Canon 5D and my only complaint is that it's a little heavy. It gets heavier as I get older.
What a bunch of aging grumblers. The D700 looks great. If you don't like it don't buy one.
Yes, we know how clever you all are. Ha ha ha. Your film cameras are marvelous, you can swap "sensors" (film), and you don't like these new-fangled gadgets. Bully for you. I guess you told them.
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
While I love fast wide primes on my RF's - that's truly their domain. It's not what I tend to use SLR's for. SLR's I use for macro work, studio portraiture, and telephoto work (especially action). Things I really wouldn't use an RF for.
Horses for courses. And lenses to suit their strengths.
Would I love it if Nikon finally make an AF version of their 35 1.4? Yes. But does it affect the choice of dSLR for me? No.
And with the extremely high image quality afforded by the FX Nikon sensors at high ISO's - one or two stops of lens speed as a deal breaker starts to look pretty silly. 2.0 or 2.8 isn't anything to sneeze at in that world.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Limited DOF, Bokeh, etc. are important again, especially with full-frame sensors!!