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The strap isn't the thin plain black leather one we could see in the teaser #1. 😉
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Nikon DF
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Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Steve Huff comments about the camera
Steve Huff comments about the camera
I just read Steve Huff's comments about the new camera (stevehuff.com). I don't normally feel like I get a lot of new or useful information from Steve's reviews, but I found his blog entry today about the Df interesting. His thoughts I think in large part cut through a lot of the unuseful complaining being written by many folks right now. He draws a picture of the camera that I think is much more grounded in what the camera is designed to do. Check it out: "Ten Reasons to Like the Nikon DF".
Steve Huff comments about the camera
I just read Steve Huff's comments about the new camera (stevehuff.com). I don't normally feel like I get a lot of new or useful information from Steve's reviews, but I found his blog entry today about the Df interesting. His thoughts I think in large part cut through a lot of the unuseful complaining being written by many folks right now. He draws a picture of the camera that I think is much more grounded in what the camera is designed to do. Check it out: "Ten Reasons to Like the Nikon DF".
cosmonaut
Well-known
Steve Huff likes everything. He gets paid to.
jsrockit
Moderator
Well, he only writes about what he likes. He's certainly spoke about cameras being sent to him for reviews that he didn't like and then didn't review. Only being fair here... though I agree about the links and making money.
uhoh7
Veteran
He doesn't like everything the same way.
He called very early the Nex-7 issues with RF wides, but we had no evidence. Same trouble with his time with A7r, we got some very nice pics, but no simple infinity landscapes with corners.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Yes to all of you that want to bang on Mr. Huff. Understood. But I'll still point out that his 10 Reasons cut through a lot of the BS whinning I'm reading my folks that haven't touched, or seen tests of, this camera. His points get the reader to look at what the Df IS, not what it ISN'T. I appreciate that. So maybe you all could weigh in on what you think of his 10 Reasons list, not what you think of him. How about that?
Frank Petronio
Well-known
Was there ever a camera he didn't like?
aeturnum
Established
I also really like Steve Huff, but this list is a little goofy. Points 1, 4 and 7 are all really the same point: it's got a killer sensor. 9 seems equally true for all Nikon DSLRs (why does that mean I should give the DF in particular a second look?). 3, 5 and 8 are also basically the same point (form factor). I also have a hard time calling 10 an advantage. I don't care about video, but my X-Pro has video and I don't think it would be a better camera without it.
I would re-write his list like this:
- It has the D4's excellent sensor.
- It's got a retro look that includes manual controls and a smaller size.
- It accepts every F-mount lens.
I would, however, agree with all his cons. 🙂
I'm just throwing stones though - I'm not really in the DSLR market at the moment, but it's fun to watch.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku?
How does it compare to the other FM series cameras, lets say FM2n or FM3a?
much bigger?
much fatter?
much heavier?
Does that prizm detach?
Can you record the serial number of that preproduction sample?
Chris101
summicronia
How does it compare to the other FM series cameras, lets say FM2n or FM3a? It's digital.
much bigger? bigger
much fatter? faster
much heavier? heavier ... more expensive too.
Does that prizm detach? no
Can you record the serial number of that preproduction sample? ??
much bigger? bigger
much fatter? faster
much heavier? heavier ... more expensive too.
Does that prizm detach? no
Can you record the serial number of that preproduction sample? ??
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku?
Fatter(sorry I am creating my own dictionary here) as in depth of the camera in one's hand, like thin or fat...
Kiu
Kiu
georadu
Member
Except for 1.5 cm in depth it's the same size as D600/610 (direct comparison on nikon's website).
It looks retro but they still have to work on size little bit. When I put the my D600 near the FM3a the D600 looks huge so the Df is pretty big.
Not a big fan of this
It looks retro but they still have to work on size little bit. When I put the my D600 near the FM3a the D600 looks huge so the Df is pretty big.
Not a big fan of this
Phantomas
Well-known
- yes, bigger. I'll snap it next to my F3 when i get a chance. People often underestimate the real estate LCD requires (and of course there is the mirror)
- fatter. re. LCD as above
- doesn't feel heavier than F3 (without looking at official weight)
- prism doesn't detach. DIY screens interchangeable though
- I'd rather not start publicizing the serial number
Highway 61
Revisited
They could very well have implemented a smaller rear LCD on it, without live view. People wanting a "pure photography" tool don't care much about live view on a DSLR. And how many of us do need a huge rear LCD ? Really ?
The three connectors on the left side are totally useless as well. Who will connect their Df with some HDMI or USB wires instead of fitting the SD card in a computer to download the pics ? Come on.
Remove a few redundant buttons alongside the screen too, as well as the Info button.
Make it a photo camera for photographers wanting something really different from the D610.
Design the rear panel on par with the top cover, instead of mixing things to please everyone.
The screens may become DIY interchangeable in the future if third parties companies market some, but not having what the Nikon FE had on a camera that price isn't normal.
So this is a point to correct quickly.
Ditto for the shamely missing eyepiece integrated closing device.
Well everything which should make the Df2 a terrific camera and a worldwide best-seller is all over the map, because every irking feature of the original Df is now clearly described by many folks.
Up to you, Nikon staff.
rodt16s
Well-known
I think the attraction to use old non Ai lenses holds my interest for the Df, the size and function thing is what it is.
These days whether software or hardware it seems most modern items (or updates) don't have the field testing and functionality designed in but are burdened with overcomplicated time consuming features that would never of been tolerated before. (just a pet hate)
If Nikon had made bodies in their range compatible with non-Ai lenses, then I think the Df would not of seen the light of day
These days whether software or hardware it seems most modern items (or updates) don't have the field testing and functionality designed in but are burdened with overcomplicated time consuming features that would never of been tolerated before. (just a pet hate)
If Nikon had made bodies in their range compatible with non-Ai lenses, then I think the Df would not of seen the light of day
Phantomas
Well-known
<<< I mean more about thickness of LCD, it's restricting. The viewing size preference may vary. (I'm imagining the sh!tstorm if LCD was much smaller. You think that would fly past the public? Personally I think that would generate substantially more complaints).
<<< In my travels I needed to use USB cable from time to time due to inability to use card-reader or card-slot. But even disregarding this, the port is used for variety of accessories far beyond simple USB picture transfer. Remote port is not useless (not everyone knows or cares about analogue cable releases). No comment on HDMI port.
<<< I use those buttons. I would complain if they were removed.
<<< I used D600, D700 and D800. Df is a different user experience. But, it still is a (D)SLR.
<<< I look forward to thinner screens. Not sure I understand the FE missing parts?
All in all, as a camera (disregarding pricing or perceived positioning, that's up to individual means and perception) it's a good camera. Image quality needs no commenting. User experience is quite different from the "regular" DSLRs on the market, but, as mentionned, it still is a DSLR and is used as one, with Nikon logic GUI with an addition of manual controls.
By the way - on megapixel topic, if this camera was 36MP like D800 say bye-bye to the benefit of using your Ai and Ai-S lenses. They will simply not be able to handle such resolution (having tried them on D800 convinced me of this).
robert blu
quiet photographer
I have been thinking about this camera a lot (I have AIS and AFD lenses and no DSLR) and so far the main reason stopping me from buying is size/weight, I have small hands and I like to travel light! From the net it seems to be more or less the same size of my F100 which a rarely use (in favour of the FM2) when I shoot film. Waiting to have one in my hands for a better evaluation. Price? Not low, requires to think very much before deciding...
robert
robert
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Actually the DF has made me re-evaluate the two Nikons I already own ... (D700 and F6) and wonder why I would need to add to them.
My conclusion is ... I don't.
My conclusion is ... I don't.
Michalm
Well-known
I wonder why people think this DF cam is cheaper version of D4 , they are different beasts made for different purpose, DF isn't competitor to A7r or A7 either they hardly have anything in common, also I wonder why Nikon put 16 mp in DF sensor in this camera which make folks think this sensor is superior to last Nikon sensors , DF is not sport camera ?
Rodchenko
Olympian
It made me scratch my head and think about what features I use on a camera, and what features I want. In context, I'd just done a walk where I'd used a 35SP (RF manual focussing; aperture & shutter speed dials around lens; ISO setting on side) and an EPL-1 (heaps of buttons and menus).
I found that I actually use more of the functions than I thought, if not all the options. And that there was a lot of useless (to me) stuff on there (video, most Art settings, most Scene settings, and the entire iAuto mode etc etc).
I came to the conclusion that my ideal camera would not be laden down with too many electronic options, have no live view screen (rather OVF RF and EVF in the viewfinder, if the optics were possible) but it would never be commercial.
I found that I actually use more of the functions than I thought, if not all the options. And that there was a lot of useless (to me) stuff on there (video, most Art settings, most Scene settings, and the entire iAuto mode etc etc).
I came to the conclusion that my ideal camera would not be laden down with too many electronic options, have no live view screen (rather OVF RF and EVF in the viewfinder, if the optics were possible) but it would never be commercial.
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