Noctilux Photos

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So, if I may pop a question in here:

The Nocti purchase will have to wait, but I got an early Summilux 50mm off eBay a couple of days ago and I like it a lot. However, it got me thinking about something I never thought about before. When shooting at wide apertures, isn't it a problem that no Leica (except the m8) has a higher shutter speed than 1/1000? As long as you're shooting at night or in very bad weather, you have to use a pretty dang slow film in order to be able to use f/1.4 and certainly f/1. Isn't it a little weird that the company with the fastest lens doesn't make cameras that can keep up with it? As far as I remember, the Bessas has at least 1/2000 speed. Anybody know why Leica hasn't gone for higher speed?

Arnulf
 
arnulf said:
Isn't it a little weird that the company with the fastest lens doesn't make cameras that can keep up with it? As far as I remember, the Bessas has at least 1/2000 speed. Anybody know why Leica hasn't gone for higher speed?
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exactly why i love my hexar and its 1/4000 speed. i suppose the solution for leica M's would be to use ND filters. its leica's shutter design that limits the higher speeds.

dante stella explains it a bit here:
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/hexarrf.html
 
arnulf said:
So, if I may pop a question in here:

The Nocti purchase will have to wait, but I got an early Summilux 50mm off eBay a couple of days ago and I like it a lot. However, it got me thinking about something I never thought about before. When shooting at wide apertures, isn't it a problem that no Leica (except the m8) has a higher shutter speed than 1/1000? As long as you're shooting at night or in very bad weather, you have to use a pretty dang slow film in order to be able to use f/1.4 and certainly f/1. Isn't it a little weird that the company with the fastest lens doesn't make cameras that can keep up with it? As far as I remember, the Bessas has at least 1/2000 speed. Anybody know why Leica hasn't gone for higher speed?

Arnulf
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The only work-around is either a ND filter or a Konica Hexar (1/4000s), since the horizontal traveling rubber-cloth shutter of a Leica can't be designed for faster shutter speeds. The mass of the shutter curtains and the brake-system don't allow for higher traveling speeds as I understand it.

Ned, great shots again !! And glad to hear that the winter is over ! 🙂 BTW, the lens came back yesterday .... 🙂🙂🙂
 
arnulf said:
Isn't it a little weird that the company with the fastest lens doesn't make cameras that can keep up with it? As far as I remember, the Bessas has at least 1/2000 speed. Anybody know why Leica hasn't gone for higher speed?
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I'm pretty sure it's because super-speed lenses were originally conceived to extend the possibilities of ultra-low light shooting. I doubt the original designers of the Noctilux expected people to be shooting at f1 in broad daylight, so the higher shutter speeds would not have been considered a necessity. In any case the classic M shutter design doesn't allow for higher speeds.

Matthew
 
no need for faster shutter speeds 🙂 If I lived with 1/500 so 1/2000 is much "modernity" for me LOL.

It is really no problem that it is impossible to shot f1.4 f1.0 at day. Thanks God!

Noctilux is not supposed to use with faster like 1/500 😉 if we look at its main purpose. Nioghty
 
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tomasis said:
Noctilux is not supposed to use with faster like 1/500 😉 if we look at its main purpose. Nioghty
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its amazing to read this sentiment and others like it echoed over again and again and again on this forum.

Im glad I never learned what I am "supposed" to do with a tool to have to bother unlearning that baggage...
 
WoolenMammoth said:
its amazing to read this sentiment and others like it echoed over again and again and again on this forum.

Im glad I never learned what I am "supposed" to do with a tool to have to bother unlearning that baggage...
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I'm amazed that you did believed that I force other to do exactly what I want 🙂 Though it was only one opinion from one humble person. I guess that I will teach monkey and sheep to harm me instead 🙂 Sure you can be glad that you happen to be a human (fortunately).
 
NB23 said:
Gabor,

Thanks for posting new shots with your Noctilux that's back from repair. As I can see, you're back on track! Now you have to show us some in-your-face shots! :-D
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Thank you, Ned !!🙂 "in-your-face shots" ... like this ?😉

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Hexar + Noctilux @ f/1.0
 
I have never seen such good f1.0 (from technical point anyway). Almost ASPH sharp hehe. I guess you still use Tmax developer? It is not something of the look you see from another competitor lenses. Maybe Leica replaced another elements in secret when you sent the lens to Solms 🙂
 
tomasis said:
I have never seen such good f1.0 (from technical point anyway). Almost ASPH sharp hehe. I guess you still use Tmax developer? It is not something of the look you see from another competitor lenses. Maybe Leica replaced another elements in secret when you sent the lens to Solms 🙂
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Thank you 🙂 Actually, these are all somehow "focus-test" photos ... Wanted to be sure that focus is correct (and challenge the Hexar with its 0.6x VF) The developer was XTOL, btw... The first shot is ACROS100 accidentally exposed at 400ISO (thought that I had loaded NEOPAN ...:bang🙂 and developed in XTOL 1:1 + Rodinal 1:100.
 
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