ywenz
Veteran
Mark Norton said:Turn-around for you, you were quite recently rubbishing the concept and likely performance of the M8. Your opinions count for nothing IMHO.
You lie, you lie ! garhasdfhgaadsf.... (melting...)
Bob Parsons
Established
To help put some of you out of your misery: http://tinyurl.com/forv6 
And if you click on the continuation link at the end of the article that will be translated. The small menu displays are also an active link to a larger image.
Bob.
And if you click on the continuation link at the end of the article that will be translated. The small menu displays are also an active link to a larger image.
Bob.
DaveKennedy
Digital Leica User?
The whirring sound is the shutter on a long exposure.
This camera is everything I would have hoped for, at least externally. Now are there ANY IMAGES taken with one of these to look at? High ISO?
Dave
This camera is everything I would have hoped for, at least externally. Now are there ANY IMAGES taken with one of these to look at? High ISO?
Dave
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
ywenz said:You lie, you lie ! garhasdfhgaadsf.... (melting...)
Welcome to the dark side....
ywenz
Veteran
If the image from this camera is no better than the image from my 20D, then I'd say $5000 is a bit too steep of an asking price.
Surely Leica must had something up its sleve in the imaging technology department for their beloved flagship model? I sure hope so! We'll se....
Surely Leica must had something up its sleve in the imaging technology department for their beloved flagship model? I sure hope so! We'll se....
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Oh, there will be lots of mountains and blurry high contrast pics of people smoking, don't worry.DaveKennedy said:The whirring sound is the shutter on a long exposure.
This camera is everything I would have hoped for, at least externally. Now are there ANY IMAGES taken with one of these to look at? High ISO?
I think the ultimate test would be to use it oneself.
Matthew
Established
ywenz said:If the image from this camera is no better than the image from my 20D, then I'd say $5000 is a bit too steep of an asking price.
If what I've read about people's DMR experiences, the image quality will be better that the 20D. However, as I've said at least half a dozen times here, there is more to a camera than image quality. Size, weight, ergonomics all are important factors for me. Not to mention that the M8 is a rangefinder and not an SLR--the crucial factor here. In any case, we'll soon put image quality questions to rest.
Regarding cost: I remember reading somewhere that $5000 for at M8 is about 33% more than an M3 cost. Converted into 1954 dollars, that would be $657. Does anyone have access to what an M3 actually sold for?
Nachkebia
Well-known
Why should be better than 20D? I mean there is no way it can be better, why? because canon has top sensors, because there has been no significent sensor evolution yet, because it has same R module sensor... no? 
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I know. I never heard anybody complaining about the Honda Goldwing not having four wheels and a roof just like a Hyundai Accent. For the same price, I mean, you should expect the same number of wheels, seats and doors, right? 
Those who do, completely miss the point about having a motorcycle like that.
Those who do, completely miss the point about having a motorcycle like that.
Nachkebia
Well-known
same? well, I don`t know how same will it be, 5D is full frame but it`s $3000 
Nachkebia
Well-known
I am very interested in handheld`ing, generaly on digital with crop factor (slr) rule of mm = 1/shutter has to be doubled because small pixel size...
MarcoS
R9/DMR . M8 . R-D1
Sorry, not doubled, only 1,33x more.
Btw DMR images are even better than those from 1DsmkII as far as dynamic range and tonality, acutance is better due to lack of AA filter and overall they compete pretty well even for large prints. We are talking about 1,37x 10.5 Mp vs full frame 16.7 Mp.
But if you judge the quality of images only by the noise at 800 and 1600 ISO, well.. yes, Canon has top sensors.
Btw I'm not biased, as I have 1Ds with many L lenses plus a wonderful R-D1 with some CV and Leica ones.
Btw DMR images are even better than those from 1DsmkII as far as dynamic range and tonality, acutance is better due to lack of AA filter and overall they compete pretty well even for large prints. We are talking about 1,37x 10.5 Mp vs full frame 16.7 Mp.
But if you judge the quality of images only by the noise at 800 and 1600 ISO, well.. yes, Canon has top sensors.
Btw I'm not biased, as I have 1Ds with many L lenses plus a wonderful R-D1 with some CV and Leica ones.
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