New York November NYC Meet-UP

So, no 28mm FL for your favorite FOV?

John,

Good point. No need for 28mm framelines because it is my favorite FOV. All I need is the 90mm frames because the 90mm frames make the center rectangle for "the rule of thirds."

Also if I need real 28mm framelines I'll rely on that 25/28 Zeiss external VF'er for that all at once wide angle feel for that in your face FOV.

I like the elegence of just 35/50/90. I like also having an unusual/custom/hot rodded camera that is especially made for me. Part MP, part M6, part M2... Is this adding to my reputation for creating cameras you consider "monsters"? LOL.

Even my gal says I'm worse than a woman because I am so fussy. LOL.

Cal
 
I would call it boredom. lol.

John,

I'm actually excited and inspired because I miss shooting with two film cameras with two different FOV's. I feel the Monochrom has made me lazy, and as good as the Monochrom is I miss shooting mucho film like the old days.

No doubt that the Monochrom made me a better shooter though with fast feedback, instant images, and added flexability.

Having too much gear is a lot of fun. LOL.

Cal
 
I'm actually excited and inspired because I miss shooting with two film cameras with two different FOV's. I feel the Monochrom has made me lazy, and as good as the Monochrom is I miss shooting mucho film like the old days.

How did it make you lazy? You don't print from film and you don't print from digital... so, it's even in my eyes. Do you miss developing film?
 
How did it make you lazy? You don't print from film and you don't print from digital... so, it's even in my eyes. Do you miss developing film?

John,

Processing 50 to sometimes 100 rolls a month is mucho work. Downloading a SD card into a Mac is definitely easier.

Not that I'm tired of the Monochrom, but shooting lots of film is just plain crazy and a lot of fun. I also like the challenge. Also know that I still like shooting two cameras at a time, but I don't or won't shoot digital or analog at the same time.

While digital perhaps makes me lazy, it is film that makes me crazy. I find my developing marathons to be very rewarding because of that all at once excitment when I empty a two liter tank and unspool the images to dry. Digital is like shooting a gun, while shooting film is like building and exploding a bomb.

Cal
 
I wouldn't call it lazier, I'd call it more efficient.

John,

I'm lazy, not efficient. That's one reason why there is such a huge log jam for printing. Although I create lots of images there are not many prints. LOL.

The Monochrom is efficient in one way: it allows me to effectively capture even more images to make an even larger log-jam.

Cal
 
Digital is like shooting a gun, while shooting film is like building and exploding a bomb.

Cal

I don't have much experience with either, but I would add that scanning is more like taking the bus from Wall Street to Washington Heights at rush hour with lots of wheel chair people getting on and off. That may make you want to set off a bomb though.
 
I don't have much experience with either, but I would add that scanning is more like taking the bus from Wall Street to Washington Heights at rush hour with lots of wheel chair people getting on and off. That may make you want to set off a bomb though.

Cristian,

I once had a smoke bomb go off in my kitchen. I stole about a kilo of Potassium Nitrate from my high school chemistry class so figure I'm perhaps 16-17 years old. My first bomb was the size of a 6 ounce juice can and when I lit it off in a park. It made a surprising amount of thick dense smoke. It really impressed some of my friends.

If I remember the formula correctly it was five parts sugar to one part Potassium Nitrate (a strong oxidizer). The idea was to use a strong oxidizer to make all the sugar kinda burn all at once, but the bomb had to be "cooked" by heating it on a stove slowly until it congealed into a pudding that would turn solid upon cooling.

A few match heads sprinkled on top was all that was needed on top to ignite the smoke bomb and work as a fuse, and all that was needed for rapid ignition was a flame. It was recommended that a double boiler be used, but I was clever and able to make that small prototype without one.

Well things didn't go so good with my second improved large version. My plan was to make a scaled up production model that would fill a 3 pound coffee can. I turned on the stove and before I could get a chop stick from a drawer to stir the mix and prevent any burning the concoction became like Mount Saint Helens in my kitchen at home.

The idea of mixing sugar with an oxidizer is to have rapid burning of a solid, but since I had a granulated mix I had a combination of a flame thrower and a volcanic eruption that included hot flowing lava that set the ceiling on fire, covered the stove in thick black crust, and burned the linolium floor.

Might I say the house became filled with thick choking smoke. You should of heard my father, a poor illiterate Chinese immigrant, shouting and cursing in Chinese. I went in the basement and got a fan to blow the smoke out of the house with our small Cape Cod in the Long Island suburbs with the front door chocked open. Then our neighbor called the fire department. This is one of the reasons why I was my father's favorite. LOL.

Anyways you got to understand the culture back then. It was the early 1970's and I was a hell raiser.

A funny thing happened to my friend Bobby Mac shortly thereafter. Bobby had witnessed my prototype in the park, he too stole some Potassium Nitrate from chemistry class, and he too had an eruption in his kitchen at home with similar results.

My old boss at Grumman had a business doing real fireworks shows in southern New Jersey. The finally was timed by a long fuse that set off "shells" from launch tubes that were four, five, six, eight and even twelve inches in diameter; but the body of the show involved a two teams of two loaders along with a guy with a road flare who manually lit off four and five inch motor rounds as fast as they could. I was one of those loaders. Keeping low while running while shielding the quick light fuse on the shell I was carrying with my body as hot burning embers descended all around me.

BTW there's a lot of smoky ash descending and the "magazine" that stored all the shells for the show were held in nothing more than a plywood box the size of a storage trunk. Every once in a while a dude would not launch, and it was standard procedure to just place the next shell on top of the dude laying in the mortar with the hope that the top shell would ignite the dude to clear the mortar.

Anyways, because of my personality, and because I'm an artist, there are a lot of things I experienced. Guns are another story.

Cal

EDIT: I said I was perhaps 16-17 years old, but the fact is that I was perhaps 15-16 because I was in 10th grade.
 
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So, our meetings are only one week apart this month? Is Ellen really coming?

Yes, I am definitely coming! My flight arrives at 6:30 PM on Saturday night 11/2/13 just in time to meet everyone at Puck Fair on Sunday. I may be a bit jet lagged but I will still be there 🙂

My daughter started a job last month in New York working for the NYC Dept of Parks and Recreation. I decided to visit her before the really cold weather sets in this winter. Looking forward to meeting the NYC RFF folks.

I see there's a lot of talk about dogs. Too bad I can't bring my new Australian Labradoodle puppy Rufus with me :-( He will be staying in Oregon while I'm in New York. Here's a link to an image of Rufus:

http://www.pbase.com/ornate_wrasse/image/151701201/medium.jpg

See you all in a little over 2 weeks,

Ellen
 
Yes, I am definitely coming! My flight arrives at 6:30 PM on Saturday night 11/2/13 just in time to meet everyone at Puck Fair on Sunday. I may be a bit jet lagged but I will still be there 🙂

My daughter started a job last month in New York working for the NYC Dept of Parks and Recreation. I decided to visit her before the really cold weather sets in this winter. Looking forward to meeting the NYC RFF folks.

I see there's a lot of talk about dogs. Too bad I can't bring my new Australian Labradoodle puppy Rufus with me :-( He will be staying in Oregon while I'm in New York. Here's a link to an image of Rufus:

http://www.pbase.com/ornate_wrasse/image/151701201/medium.jpg

See you all in a little over 2 weeks,

Ellen

Ellen,

Chase, AKA: Baby-Dog; and Chubby-Butt; was a rescued dog, but he has a lot of personality. He really thinks he's Brad Pitt.

I think when you see the dog culture in New York you will be amused. Today I saw someone with a full grown Pit Bull in a doggie stroller on my walk to work.

At FIT (Fashion Institute of Technology) in Chelsea they offer a certificate program in fashion for dogs. "Maggie" and I are responsible for spoiling Baby-Dog. He has a Nantucket Red hoody and an expensive designer winter coat that we got at a dog boutique in the upper east side. He really prances around and has a good runway walk.

Cal
 
"Maggie" and I are responsible for spoiling Baby-Dog. He has a Nantucket Red hoody and an expensive designer winter coat that we got at a dog boutique in the upper east side. He really prances around and has a good runway walk.

Cal,

He sounds adorable. Maybe I'll find one of those expensive designer winter coats when I'm in New York that I can bring back to Oregon. It would be a great Xmas gift for Rufus 🙂

If you can post an image of him, I'd love to see it.

Ellen
 
Cristian,

I once had a smoke bomb go off in my kitchen. I stole about a kilo of Potassium Nitrate from my high school chemistry class so figure I'm perhaps 16-17 years old. My first bomb was the size of a 6 ounce juice can and when I lit it off in a park. It made a surprising amount of thick dense smoke. It really impressed some of my friends.

If I remember the formula correctly it was five parts sugar to one part Potassium Nitrate (a strong oxidizer). The idea was to use a strong oxidizer to make all the sugar kinda burn all at once, but the bomb had to be "cooked" by heating it on a stove slowly until it congealed into a pudding that would turn solid upon cooling.

A few match heads sprinkled on top was all that was needed on top to ignite the smoke bomb and work as a fuse, and all that was needed for rapid ignition was a flame. It was recommended that a double boiler be used, but I was clever and able to make that small prototype without one.

Well things didn't go so good with my second improved large version. My plan was to make a scaled up production model that would fill a 3 pound coffee can. I turned on the stove and before I could get a chop stick from a drawer to stir the mix and prevent any burning the concoction became like Mount Saint Helens in my kitchen at home.

The idea of mixing sugar with an oxidizer is to have rapid burning of a solid, but since I had a granulated mix I had a combination of a flame thrower and a volcanic eruption that included hot flowing lava that set the ceiling on fire, covered the stove in thick black crust, and burned the linolium floor.

Might I say the house became filled with thick choking smoke. You should of heard my father, a poor illiterate Chinese immigrant, shouting and cursing in Chinese. I went in the basement and got a fan to blow the smoke out of the house with our small Cape Cod in the Long Island suburbs with the front door chocked open. Then our neighbor called the fire department. This is one of the reasons why I was my father's favorite. LOL.

Anyways you got to understand the culture back then. It was the early 1970's and I was a hell raiser.

A funny thing happened to my friend Bobby Mac shortly thereafter. Bobby had witnessed my prototype in the park, he too stole some Potassium Nitrate from chemistry class, and he too had an eruption in his kitchen at home with similar results.

My old boss at Grumman had a business doing real fireworks shows in southern New Jersey. The finally was timed by a long fuse that set off "shells" from launch tubes that were four, five, six, eight and even twelve inches in diameter; but the body of the show involved a two teams of two loaders along with a guy with a road flare who manually lit off four and five inch motor rounds as fast as they could. I was one of those loaders. Keeping low while running while shielding the quick light fuse on the shell I was carrying with my body as hot burning embers descended all around me.

BTW there's a lot of smoky ash descending and the "magazine" that stored all the shells for the show were held in nothing more than a plywood box the size of a storage trunk. Every once in a while a dude would not launch, and it was standard procedure to just place the next shell on top of the dude laying in the mortar with the hope that the top shell would ignite the dude to clear the mortar.

Anyways, because of my personality, and because I'm an artist, there are a lot of things I experienced. Guns are another story.

Cal

Oh dear god and now you work in a real lab with big boy chemicals... 😱
 
BOB,

GEAR ALERT: I have a fresh F3HP that I rigged with a black 45/2.8P AIS. This is a flat pancake lens that is also Nikon's most contrasty lens because it has so few elements (Tessar design). I removed the vulcanite and used it as a template for some black soft goat leather I found being sold as a sample in the fashion district. The VF'er I left naked. What a good looking compact SLR. It looks evil. LOL.

Cal

Wow, That must feel nice, Oh! Oh!, I did that to a Minolta XD11 The original
Fake pleather went bad on it so I put on some nice soft real leather I got at a street fair.
Can you bring it to the next meet either on the 26th or the 3rd let me know I'll bring
mine, I got to say I'm getting into film cameras in a big way.

Bob
 
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