nobbylon
Veteran
'divine right' , a little bit excessive Roger! Personally I believe in fair pricing. As I've said before, with regard to the M8, I'm not willing to be a Leica beta tester, especially at the prices being spoken of on here. Yes, I will admit, I'd love an M9 and having used my D700 extensively I'm sold on full frame digital. I'm sure it will be a great camera but at this anticipated price point it ought to be and fully sorted too. I won't hold my breath too long waiting for Leica to price their products with photographers rather than the wealthy in mind
trph_2000
Established
It is very easy to get U.S. products without sales tax. You purchase by mail from another
state. The U.S. does not have a national sales tax.
state. The U.S. does not have a national sales tax.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Unfortunately, however, movito is in Norway and I'm in Germany.
And the Leica is not an U.S. product (not that that makes a difference sales-tax-wise).
leicashot
Well-known
Here we go again, comparing the 'FULL FRAME M9' everyone's been asking for to DSLR's!!!!! This is a 'rangefinder' forum right? I thought we're all RF fans....but obviously the filter on this forum isn't working.
If you're going to compare apples to oranges then the M9 is not for you, obviously. Do you think that comparing and complaining about it's high price is gonna make Leica drop the price, just for you? C'mon guys, just be happy Leica has done it!
If you're going to compare apples to oranges then the M9 is not for you, obviously. Do you think that comparing and complaining about it's high price is gonna make Leica drop the price, just for you? C'mon guys, just be happy Leica has done it!
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oscroft
Veteran
My wife tells me I'm disgusting - so I'm a third of the way there
kshapero
South Florida Man
What a negetive thread. Do we all want Leica to fail? I think both new bodies are awesome. If you want Leica quality and innovation you have to pay for it. A used M6 from 1986 still goes for $1200. An equivalent used SLR from Nikon would be about $125, Canon? don't even ask. My point is that you can not compare them. Different worlds. Leica prices have always been in another world and that's the way it is.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
My wife tells me I'm disgusting - so I'm a third of the way there
"I read that Pamela Anderson considers a man a man if he has sixpack abs, a firm ass, and a pair of jeans. Looking down at myself I see - a pair of jeans. I'm a third of the way there!"
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Well now that the FF RF is finally out and they can't complain about the piddly little sensor in the M8, we can finally get back to the same old complaints that the Leica is just too damn expensive. They are just for the stupid, the rich, or the star-struck.
I notice the D3X is $8K at B&H. That Nikon, pricing with no concern for the little guy.
I notice the D3X is $8K at B&H. That Nikon, pricing with no concern for the little guy.
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
I don't think anyone is directly comparing the M9 to DSLRs but rather hoping the M9 sensor will be at least as good as any FF sensor out there. I agree that it makes no sense to whine about price. It is what it is and for Leica pretty, I had to use the word in connection with Leica, reasonable. A D3x is no cheaper and they are selling.
Bob
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Did Tony become an authorized dealer? Last I checked he dealt in grey market imports, not that there's anything wrong with that. Unless he's a contracted dealer the NDA doesn't apply to him.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Certainly! I'm happy that Leica can overcome the technical problem and provide a full-frame sensor camera for only 7k USD.
That is not outrageous at all, especially coming from Leica and think about all those quality lenses that regained their full-strength (focal-length) back.
If I have 8k to spend on a digital camera, I'd be hard-pressed to overlook the M9.
The X1 on the other hand... tsk, tsk, tsk!
I think Leica should just charge 8k for the M9 and throw in the X1 as a bonus.
That is not outrageous at all, especially coming from Leica and think about all those quality lenses that regained their full-strength (focal-length) back.
If I have 8k to spend on a digital camera, I'd be hard-pressed to overlook the M9.
The X1 on the other hand... tsk, tsk, tsk!
I think Leica should just charge 8k for the M9 and throw in the X1 as a bonus.
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ccs
Member
Yeah, I want one, but looking at my D700 and a few primes that cost less than a grand together new, makes me wonder why. I know Leitz lenses are good, but being able to focus a wide angle, less than a foot away, is pretty handy at times, as is a 50 mm at a foot and a half. And even though I don't mind MF, there are times, shooting one handed, that AF comes in handy. I still want a M9 though.
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nobbylon
Veteran
show me some done with the summilux at 1250 iso up and i'll show you some i've done at hi 2 (25600 iso) with a nikkor 50 AI. This whole Leica thing is b@@@@@@s. I have both systems and unless you actually took the photo and remembered what you used, you'd never know! I do wish people wouldn't look through misty doe eyes just because someone put a Leica label on it.