Old contax zeiss lens and camera serial numbers

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I own a contax IIIa nr L79135 with
lens carl zeiss jena 5cm f:2 nr 1862046 and a
contax IIa nr S23081 with
lens zeiss opton 50 mm f :1,5 nr 47511
Does somebody know when these 4 items has been produced ?
Where is it possible to find this information ?
 
Loop,

did you really join the ZIC group? Took me couple of days to get there, and mind you that this is an e-mail based group that simply spreads your mail to all members, so it may take quite a while until the right member (the person with the information you need) has read your mail and found the time to answer.

Perhaps Mike Elek, Mike Kovacs or Stephen Gandy are around here or in the collectors group and can give you a hand on that one.

For the time being, the Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5 cm f:2 No. 1862046 is the only pre-war (1936) part of your equipment according to

http://home.sprynet.com/~stspring/Zeiss Ikon.html

Second, have a look at your camera bodies for a hint. Production years were 1951 to 1960, starting with black numbers on the speed dial, later switching to coloured numbers (and an improved flash sync), often these differences are being referred to as "black dial" and "color dial".

If all fails and you are willing to spend your money on a definite solution, you can purchase Hartmut Thiele's serial number book on post-war Carl Zeiss Production (with Opton indicating that your f:1,5 Sonnar is from OPTische werke OberkocheN, W Germany):

http://www.lindemanns.de/4DCGI/2073197993/TitelAnzeige/351153

For the camera bodies, it is possible to drop Zeiss Germany a mail. As far as I know, they are in keeping of the records for the bodies an can possibly tell you the year of production (which they have been said to do earlier in one thread). They offer this service explicitely:

http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A10053133C/Inhalt-Frame/C9F1B3FB3CD2C2B941256A72004AEA3C

Just place the tag in the first box "Anfragen zu ...historischen Produkten" and put down your questions.

Wishing you success!

Jesko
 
info hard to find

info hard to find

LOOP said:
I own a contax IIIa nr L79135 with
lens carl zeiss jena 5cm f:2 nr 1862046 and a
contax IIa nr S23081 with
lens zeiss opton 50 mm f :1,5 nr 47511
Does somebody know when these 4 items has been produced ?
Where is it possible to find this information ?

I am having the same problem. I own a IIa and 3 variations of the IIIa. I'd like to know when they were produced, but have nothing definite.
I can't read German, and found the Zeiss site to be too difficult to get around. I tried following the directions, but couldn't find the text on the webpage.
Not knowing other languages can be such a limiting factor in any research. I was a dunce in school in French and Latin. Languages have always been a challenge, and others seem to just absorb them. I live in New England, and travel to Canada several times a year. Not speaking French in the Montreal/Sherbrooke area can be a distinct problem, even worse in Quebec. And my German is nowhere.
If you do find a source (I couldn't find a copy of the referenced book on the website, either), please let me know. I'm sure their are others who would be interested, as well.
Good hunting,

Harry
 
Hans-Jurgen Kuc's books "On the Trail of the Contax" volumes one and two give serial number information. Your IIIa was produced between July 1956 and July 1961 (numbers 75.001 through 85.000, so perhaps 1958?) and your IIa was produced between July of 1950 and April of 1951. I don't have the lens data handy...
 
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