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Who is the winner?
Big Hairy Bee
barnacker
I bought the GF1 because of the faster autofocus and the available EVF. I wouldn't feel bad having an EP1 though.
Burkey
Well-known
My EP-1 arrives tomorrow. I bought it with the Optical viewfinder. I'm a bit concerned about focusing with the finder. I'll post after using it for a while.
. . . Burkey
. . . Burkey
jarski
Veteran
wonder is there any truth behind EP-2 rumors coming soon (EP-1 being so "young" still).. 
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Yeah, there's even pictures of it out there somewhere...it's basically the GF1 version of the E-P1, with a detachable EVF. But it sounds like the Oly EVF is much nicer.
The answer may be the EP-2. Then the GF2 will beat that, then the EP-3......
That is a good thing. I am set for now with my EP-1.
I will watch what comes down the road in the future though.
That is a good thing. I am set for now with my EP-1.
I will watch what comes down the road in the future though.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I really like the GF1. Someday there will be a body with built-in EVF that meets my stylistic requirements, and I will get that, too.
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
The IS in the EP1 is a winner......the camera would still be great even without it but it's nice to have....The 17 and finder is like Heaven but it seems that I am using the camera more with the screen and not using the finder as much....this is interesting to me but not upsetting....I'm getting what I am going after and it's working.....
It's a pretty site I tell ya , a damn pretty site....
It's a pretty site I tell ya , a damn pretty site....
Harril
Member
I Have a E-P1with 14-42 kit lens and voigtländer 28/35mm minifinder and these are good for my use. But maybe later i buy better lens, lumix 20 mm
wishes
Harri
wishes
Harri
Silva Lining
CanoHasseLeica
I'm happy with my EP-1, it goes everywhere with me
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
the correct choice/winner is (or should be) the G1 or GH1, simply for the EVF, the LCD, and the price (I haven't checked the price on the G1 lately, but it was pretty good when it came out and it can only have gotten better by now). I've saw the EP1 in the flesh on Saturday. I was disappointed. I think the GF1 is a better looking camera. So the GF1 is my pick here. If I had to have a m4/3 right now, I'd get the G1 and wait for a body with IS and a good EVF.
Avotius
Some guy
Not a huge fan of the GF1, not a big fan of panasonic cameras in general really, I don't like their image processing which seems much more artificial than Olympus, so I grabbed myself the EP1 and later will pick up that 20 f1.7 for it unless Someone else gives us something better.
.ken
I like pictures
E-P1 with 20mm f1.7 is a pretty good shooter. I was surprised at how good it performed during low light shooting this weekend. I really enjoyed it (even without the flash!). The high-iso and IS really makes this camera work. It's nice for once walking around without lugging film or a camera bag.
I'll wait until E-P2, Ricoh, Fuji or whoever else comes out with their variation by 2010. I'm leaning more towards Ricoh.
I'll wait until E-P2, Ricoh, Fuji or whoever else comes out with their variation by 2010. I'm leaning more towards Ricoh.
laptoprob
back to basics
Haven't handheld the Oly, but like the GF1 a lot. AF is great!
PeterB666
Member
I bought the E-P1 for its in-body IS which means that the bucket load of old lenses I have are all image stabilsed. Focusing with an Olympus OM lens or 1950s Schneider lens is just as fast on the E-P1 as it is on any camera.
My camera came with the Olympus M.Zukio 14-42 and it is a little ripper of a lens. I picked up an 'unbundled' Panasonic 45-200 zoom for half price and I have a 20mm f/1.7 in the post from Japan. Hopefully the soon to be announced Olympus stuff will include news on the wide angle zoom as the Panny 7-14 just isn't anywhere near my price bracket.
My camera came with the Olympus M.Zukio 14-42 and it is a little ripper of a lens. I picked up an 'unbundled' Panasonic 45-200 zoom for half price and I have a 20mm f/1.7 in the post from Japan. Hopefully the soon to be announced Olympus stuff will include news on the wide angle zoom as the Panny 7-14 just isn't anywhere near my price bracket.
AJShepherd
Well-known
The E-P1's integrated image stabilisation was the deal maker for me. I'd already decided that I would not be buying any new camera where image stabilisation was lens-based.
I've used the E-P1 with the 14-42mm zoom, the 17mm pancake, 15mm, 40mm and 75mm Voigtlander, and the 50mm f1.8 OM Zuiko lens, all with pleasing results - all image stabilised!
I've used the E-P1 with the 14-42mm zoom, the 17mm pancake, 15mm, 40mm and 75mm Voigtlander, and the 50mm f1.8 OM Zuiko lens, all with pleasing results - all image stabilised!
tribleyl
Newbie
I’m not too fond of these “winning” threads. I have the EP-1. For me it was about the subtle characteristics of its image processing. I made a connection to it right away, similar to some of my favorite films. I find it interesting to see on other forums GF-1 users asking how they can emulate EP-1 colors.
Two other factors were critical. IS and the use of my Pentax digital Pancakes and my legacy Pentax K and screw mount lenses all now with IS. I also have the kit zoom and 17mm and use a KMZ Universal turret viewfinder.
Have no problems with AF speed (and low light capability) since the firmware update and I’m not missing shots that I would not normally miss because I screwed up.
Without these, I’m not sure if I would have invested in MFT at this time and would stick with my Konica Hexar (about the same size) and add a Voigthlander R4M along with some great Voigthlander lenses.
Anyway, these models will be replaced in the near future and new competition from other manufactures will heat up the market.
Bottom line; select the best tool(s) to express your vision.
Two other factors were critical. IS and the use of my Pentax digital Pancakes and my legacy Pentax K and screw mount lenses all now with IS. I also have the kit zoom and 17mm and use a KMZ Universal turret viewfinder.
Have no problems with AF speed (and low light capability) since the firmware update and I’m not missing shots that I would not normally miss because I screwed up.
Without these, I’m not sure if I would have invested in MFT at this time and would stick with my Konica Hexar (about the same size) and add a Voigthlander R4M along with some great Voigthlander lenses.
Anyway, these models will be replaced in the near future and new competition from other manufactures will heat up the market.
Bottom line; select the best tool(s) to express your vision.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I would imagine almost all the imaging characteristics of these cameras would be eliminated if you shoot raw, except perhaps CA and purple fringing, which Panasonic seems to be pretty good at. In body IS is a real advantage in low light though!
In the end I went with the Pana but I really don't think it's worth pitting them against one another. They both appear to be extremely capable shooters.
In the end I went with the Pana but I really don't think it's worth pitting them against one another. They both appear to be extremely capable shooters.
gavinlg
Veteran
e-p1.
Don't like panasonic image colors/noise control even on raw files.
Also don't like any of the physical controls on panasonic cameras.
Don't like panasonic image colors/noise control even on raw files.
Also don't like any of the physical controls on panasonic cameras.
PeterB666
Member
I received my Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 in the mail from Japan today. Wound up going for one from Japan as none of the US suppliers that ship to Oz had them in stock. Net cost was only a little more than from the US and substantially less than anwhere local (and as far as I am aware the lens only isn't yet shipping in Australia).
Seems a good partner to the Olympus E-P1 despite the Pansonic oddity of liking to 'rest' the aperture at f/2.8 when powered up. I was exepecting faster focusing but it is still adequate. Manual focus seems to be better than on either my Olympus 14-42 or Panasonic 45-200 lenses.
Yet to have a serious play with it. Hopefully the weather will improve by the weekend.
Seems a good partner to the Olympus E-P1 despite the Pansonic oddity of liking to 'rest' the aperture at f/2.8 when powered up. I was exepecting faster focusing but it is still adequate. Manual focus seems to be better than on either my Olympus 14-42 or Panasonic 45-200 lenses.
Yet to have a serious play with it. Hopefully the weather will improve by the weekend.
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