M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
Your right about that.
I never use that in any camera but one never knows. The little flash on the GF1 is nice at night, very dark at about 1/5 sec...f4 maybe and the flash blurs nicely...
ywenz
Veteran
well tried to do some long exposures with the E-P1.. AF couldn't lock onto anything because it was too dark.. MF was difficult too with the dark image and without distance scale.. the only solution was to shine a flash light and then fire the AF, or use a camera that has built-in AF assist light...
Yes, the AF is flawed on these cameras, but they are still fun to use. The Leica X1's AF might be slow in comparison, but it locks onto things very easily and accurately even in the dark.
januaryman
"Flim? You want flim?"
Turning on live boost on the E-P2 is the closest I've come to having night vision goggles. Sure it's not perfect, but I can use it to focus with my legacy lenses pretty consistently. Autofocus or no, you CAN use the Pen in low light conditions.
I mean really - how dark can it be in these situations? I don't see this as a reason to pass on buying either of these M43 cameras. Unless you're a spy. In which case, give Q. a call and see what he's got for you.
I mean really - how dark can it be in these situations? I don't see this as a reason to pass on buying either of these M43 cameras. Unless you're a spy. In which case, give Q. a call and see what he's got for you.
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
I am starting with the GF1 and find the AF to better.
The big reason is the adjustable AF target size.
With the smallest target, I am able to get focus lock in very low light.
The big reason is the adjustable AF target size.
With the smallest target, I am able to get focus lock in very low light.
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moonwrack
Member
C-mount lens adapter
C-mount lens adapter
I have not discovered how to start a new line of enquiry so I will insert this question here, if I may, since it seems not entirely inappropriate....is there such a thing as an adapter to allow c-mount lenses (the cine camera c-mount) to be used on Leica-M cameras? This would be a route, via other adapters, for such lenses to be used on cameras with four-thirds sensors and the results might be interesting. Not sure whether such a fitting would focus to infinity, though......
C-mount lens adapter
I have not discovered how to start a new line of enquiry so I will insert this question here, if I may, since it seems not entirely inappropriate....is there such a thing as an adapter to allow c-mount lenses (the cine camera c-mount) to be used on Leica-M cameras? This would be a route, via other adapters, for such lenses to be used on cameras with four-thirds sensors and the results might be interesting. Not sure whether such a fitting would focus to infinity, though......
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ywenz
Veteran
I just wish they would put distance scale on the LCD!!! Is there a technical limiation as to why they don't have it?
Or at least allow us to set the lens focus to infinity like on the GRD
Or at least allow us to set the lens focus to infinity like on the GRD
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
Yeah, the engineers with all their brilliant minds decided that Hyperfocal Distance was an illusion. So they created a Focus By Wire method that lets the lens just keep turning and turning and the camera and the shooter never really knows where it's focused at.
It doesn't matter to them cause they see the image as a 2 dimensional reality like photographers do. This is good but the difference is that photographers know that they start with a 3 dimensional reality and engineers never know about that.....
paper, screens, all flat fields so there decided that DOF doesn't exist either....:bang:
mh2000
Well-known
Everyone makes a huge deal about having to hit the OK button a second time to get out of zoom focus mode with legacy lenses... am I the only one that realizes that the OK button is actually located very conveniently for pushing a second time? Pushing this button a second time is hardly difficult... sure, a half press of the shutter would be preferable... actually, it would be most preferable that the camera knew that a legacy lens was mounted and went into zoom mode with a half press and then out of zoom mode with a second half press... but the way it is now doesn't stop me from using legacy lenses... it becomes a none issue after 2 days IMO...
ywenz
Veteran
That's not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is, to utilize manual focus assist, the cam forces you to stay in the green box disp mode. A mode that disables your access to the other adjustment shortcut buttons on the back of the camera.
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
1+ Big Time on that!
.ken
I like pictures
+1 here. Since the focusing is all "electronic" why not just trick the lens and put "fake" stoppers on the focusing mechanism. Couple this with a DOF scale then I'm happy.
Bigeejit
Member
I found the MF assist straightforward to use,my old Oly E330 has that feature also and I took to it like a Duck to water. VIVA MAITANI (R.I.P)
raid
Dad Photographer
I don't know guys, but I have ordered a EP-2. It is my fate.
Guaranteed
Well-known
Congrats Raid, it's a fun little camera.
raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you, Christian. I will enjoy using it.
gekopaca
French photographer
None of them.
E-P2 or G1
E-P2 or G1
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
ianstamatic
Well-known
got to say that i really like my little GH1
From 2 days ago.
GH1 with 25mm 1.4 c-mount lens.
From 2 days ago.
GH1 with 25mm 1.4 c-mount lens.
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thegman
Veteran
My brother had a GF-1 but did not like it all that much, plus the EVF is not so hot. I got a G1, and it's EVF is a lot better, plus the camera is cheaper. Other than the form factor, I'm not sure why the GF-1 sells. Given the choice between a GF-1 and an EP-1, I'd get the EP-1, with that clip on OVF, and the prime lens, it's inexpensive in the UK, and a very pretty camera.