Kim Coxon
Moderator
Sorry if my post came across as being abrupt, I didn't mean it that way. I was also rather busy in another couple of threads. 
I didn't take your comment as a criticism and having seen Roland's shots, I am sure the fault was as much with the giveaway film and the cheap processing as much as anything else. However, such a test does tend to show up any weaknesses. To me the Orion is overpriced for it's usability. But then again people pay far more for black M3s than they do for chrome ones and it's not because they take better photographs.
Kim
I didn't take your comment as a criticism and having seen Roland's shots, I am sure the fault was as much with the giveaway film and the cheap processing as much as anything else. However, such a test does tend to show up any weaknesses. To me the Orion is overpriced for it's usability. But then again people pay far more for black M3s than they do for chrome ones and it's not because they take better photographs.
Kim
Jocko said:Oh Kim
My few shreds of good Karma are dripping away
Cheers, Ian
photobizzz
Speak of the Devil
Well thanks to all for the info on the Orion-15. I actually had a RFF member with a good copy that he has tested and purchased from a US shop offered to me. I picked it up from him for a good price and at the same time a Schlact 35mm 3.5 Travenar-R in LTM. I will see how it goes and if I dont like it someone on ebay will. Thanks again!