OT: Looking for TLR - any suggestions

Another vote for the Rolleiflex T. In addition to great build quality and a really nice 75/3.5 Tessar, this one allows you to change screens and use a prism. The latter might be a big deal for someone not used to reversed TLR viewing. Oh, did I forget the shutter release which is placed a million times more conveniently than on the "real" Flexes?
 
...lots o' good advice from knowledgeable, actual users...over the years i have used mamiya c3, c220f, c330f, yaschica 124,ricohflex, and the minolta autocord and all gave me great results...

i recently bought a well cared for and fully functional autocord III(?) for $150.00 and i am enjoying it almost as much as my mamiya6...i agree with the excellent earlier post by sr. gianni about the qualities of the camera...

it sits in my left hand so well and the controls are just where they should be, for me... the smooth feel of the film advance, the coating of the lens - yes coating in the mid '60's -, the degree of attention to the machining, the fit, and finnish of the exterior & interior parts, controls, etc,etc took me by surprise.

i had forgotten or never understood how very nice a camera it is. i wasn't aware of these things when i had my first one...i did my first paid portrait session for couple's wedding announcement in '75...it was the "hook" that got me into medium format...have not used rollei tlr's, but understand their well-deserved reputation and enthusiastic following...i may be able to forward to you, the name of the person i bought this recent one from if you are interested

...oh beware, the pull of medium format once you have experienced it !!! what a grand addiction...

hasta la vista, adieu, dazvidanya,fino al prossimo tempo, auf wiedersehen, and later y’all
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Another (needless?) vote for the Rolleiflex - mine's a 2.8d and I love it. Although if you're on a budget the f3.5 models are also really great. I have to agree with the "Leica of TLRs" reference, the build quality and feel of the camera is fantastic. Upgrade the screen and perhaps the mirror and you'll have a sharp, clear, huge viewfinder.

Brad
 
I have a Rolleiflex 2.8E and 3.5F, a Yashica 124G and 635. All perform well but the rollei's are head and shoulders ahead of the yashicas in build quality. Most any TLR camera will give great results.


Todd
 
Yashicamats make a lot of noise when you advance the film. The ratchet pawls are very noisy.

Mamiya C330 TLRs make a lot of noise when you trip the shutter.

Rolleiflex, Rolleicords and Minolta Autocords are very quiet.

R.J.
 
OK, probably a dumb question here, but do the Yashica TLRs take photos in the 6x6 format? Thanks 🙂
 
kyle said:
OK, probably a dumb question here, but do the Yashica TLRs take photos in the 6x6 format? Thanks 🙂

Not a dumb question but yes. I think the Contaflex might have taken non-square photos (can't recall offhand), but otherwise they is square. Which is good, cause turning them on their side is a b*$(@8. Some TLRs are 127 roll film, so 4x4 negs on them. They used to make wicked "Super Slides" that killed back when ever buddy watched slide shows at camera clubs and smoked cigarettes.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
bmattock said:
Not a dumb question but yes. I think the Contaflex might have taken non-square photos (can't recall offhand), but otherwise they is square. Which is good, cause turning them on their side is a b*$(@8. Some TLRs are 127 roll film, so 4x4 negs on them. They used to make wicked "Super Slides" that killed back when ever buddy watched slide shows at camera clubs and smoked cigarettes.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

You can cut your 60mm X 60mm chromes down to superslide format with one of these


bronsslide.jpg



or a pair of scissors.

For best results use a 6X6 TLR with a 55mm lens for a "normal" perspective.

R.J.
 
I keep thinking about trying to find a little Yashica 44 and playing with 127 film. They're just so cute that against all sense I want one... most of the benefits of medium format while still being able to use a 35mm projector. Just out of curiosity, has anybody tried scanning superslides in a Dual Scan IV?
 
Doug, I don't think you can get 127 slide film cheap if you can still find it. I've heard of people cutting down 120 film in the darkroom with a slitter and re-spooling it. It's easier to get a 645 Fuji rangefinder (like this) with a 45mm lens and cut the film down after processing.

R.J.
 
Thanks for the link, R.J. I had a GA645 but wound up not shooting it as much as it deserved, so I sold it a couple of months ago. Looks like The Frugal Photographer is running around $12/roll for slide film, which is a lot more than I'd like to spend on a regular basis. Guess I'll stick with good ol' 120.
 
Floyd Takeuchi said:
I have the Yashica 635 (similar to the D) and it continues to impress me.

Floyd, I quite agree. I got my 635 when I was in high school in the late 1970's, given to me by my dad, and I continue to use it, and it continues to blow me away with the quality.

For those who dare:

http://www.cameramentor.com/images/12-04-2005-010.jpg

This is a shot of my wife, taken last week as we were preparing to do 'Christmas Snaps' with the DSLR for the family. Oh yeah, it is a huge file, so don't click on the link you don't have highspeed internet. But to give you an idea of what a 3-element Yashikor can do - scanned on a cheap Epson flatbed 2400.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Floyd Takeuchi said:
If you're on a tight budget, you'd be hard pressed to get a better deal than a good condition Yashica TLR, the Yashicamat if you want a crank advance (and automatic shutter cocking), or the D if you don't mind a Rolleicord-type knob wind advance. I have the Yashica 635 (similar to the D) and it continues to impress me. I got one in great condition with the full 35mm conversion kit (pretty useless, in my estimation). When you start researching Yashica TLRs, you'll find lots of threads about the difference between the four-element Yashinon lenses vs. the three-element Yashikors. All I can tell you is that I've had extremely good results with my Yashikor 635. In fact, I used it earlier this year for an assignment for a magazine that I am the publisher of. We used one of the pictures (all shot on Fuji Acros 100) for the cover, and three to illustrate profiles. That was in Japan. I used the camera again recently in American Samoa, and we will be using two of those photos (shot on Kodak 400UC) to illustrate a story on the fiafia dance shows in American Samoa. No TLR is particularly fast, but if you take your time, they can give you great results.

Rollei had a Rolleikin for using 35mm film in their TLRs. I suppose Yashica had to have one too. 😉

If you were traveling extremely light and couldn't buy 120 roll film where you were, you can always pop in the adapter and pick up a roll of 35 mm just about anywhere. What 35mm camera with a 75mm lens will let you use flash at 1/500th second?

Dinu Lazar highly recommended the Rolleiflex with Rolleikin several years ago on the Rollei List.
I wonder if Pherdinand has heard of Dinu Lazar?

R.J.
 
Poptart said:
A couple of us here have old Argus argoflex 75s. Made in the '50s, I think. You have to re-spool for 620 but it has instant or time shutter, folding WL finder, and a cool deco look. Mine came with the leather glove for $4 at a thrift.

There are a couple of Minolta TLRs on the eBay; this one looks good:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Minolta-AUT...ryZ11721QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'll throw in another vote for Argus TLR's. Although I have a couple of model E's. The nice thing about them is that they take 620 and 120. One of my E's shutter is broken and I am keeping it around just in case I ever decide to get a camera that uses 620 film. Plus you just can't beat the cases that they come in 😀

I'll also vote for Ricoh TLR's. I had a Ricohmatic that I tried to send to Mark Hama for a CLA, but it got stolen while in transit 🙁 Although it was a great camera while I had it.

I want to try a Rolleicord next and I am just starting to track them on Eb**.

Richie
 
darkkavenger said:
I own several Flexaret TLRs, all very satisfying. 🙂

They too have a focusing lever below the taking lens like the Minolta autocord instead of the silly knob if I remember well.

I saw a flexaret VII at a camera fair for £40 in good conditions, except the mirror that started to show a lot of wear and non reflecting patches, is it a common problem for flexarets?
 
Todd.Hanz said:
I have a Rolleiflex 2.8E and 3.5F, a Yashica 124G and 635. All perform well but the rollei's are head and shoulders ahead of the yashicas in build quality. Most any TLR camera will give great results.


Todd

The parts inside of a Yashica are stamped out of softer steel than the Rolleis. I've seen the inside of a Yashicamat 124G after the double exposure prevention mechanism stuck and the owner tried to force it to the next frame. The steel arm that cocks the shutter bent and had to be removed and straightened. The parts inside of a Rollei are made from better grades of steel.

I have heard people complain about the focusing lever breaking off of the Autocord. With the two Autocords I owned, I didn't think there was enough resistance to break off the lever. If it was extremely cold and the grease was hard inside the camera I could imagine that happening.

R.J.
 
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