Out of Focus - still meaningful

davidnewtonguitars said:
Too bad this thread could not be merged with the "sharpness is a bourgeois concept" thread. Both threads are great and it would be a shame to lose either.
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Yes I overlooked that thread when I started this one so I am sorry for this but it certainly has brought out some cracker jack images. Terrific.
 
Chromacomaphoto said:
LOVE this Kuuan, really good indeed! I also agree with what you noted about that classic girl on a scooter shot. I came to a similar conclusion last year... if you go back and look at the most iconic photos of the 20th century, it's amazing how many of them might not be technically perfect, especially in terms of focus. Just goes to show, the image either works or it doesn't and what's technically 'correct' doesn't necessarily impact upon our subjective appreciation of 'successful' art. ...
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thank you and right! After I had started using manual lenses on digital bodies, first on dSLRs that were badly equipped for that, good focus was my main aim. Certainly I must have discarded many that were badly focused. Now, specially after having seen that scooter photo, I'd consider them. ( great Bangkok Photos and guides for photographers at your blog, thank you! Hope to meet you some time there to go out taking photos together, pass by in Bangkok quite often, last time was less than a week ago )

peterm1 said:
Yes I overlooked that thread when I started this one so I am sorry for this but it certainly has brought out some cracker jack images. Terrific.
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yes, but I notice that a good part of images posted in your thread are actually not out of focus but blurry from motion. The title of the other thread doesn't distinguish, your's does, or would, and I wished photos submitted would too.
later edit: oh, I see that in spite of the title "out of focus" in your post you specify that also motion blur is included


Kalpana by andreas, on Flickr, S-M-C Takumar f1.4/50mm, Pentax *istDs, Nepal 2008
 
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Yokohama, Japan
 
Chromacomaphoto said:
The first one is sublime, quite ethereal and really works!
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peterm1 said:
I agree his set is great and first one with the old Asian gentleman particularly stands out.
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Thanks guys, appreciate your thoughts and comments...


jazzwave said:
Craig,
Amazing series.....luv it
Any shutter speed info for those pictures?
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Ron, not a clue... :bang: All shot on film; the first two are circa 2004 in Beijing - Bessa T both with the VC28/3.5, and the third is a Nikonos V + 35mm. Honestly, they were all rather serendipitous outcomes due to a combination of having slow film in the camera and/or while walking. For example, the first one was iso 100 at dusk, in heavy overcast and rain, from the hip whilst walking, with a slow lens - almost no chance of a sharp image there :D. I remember the 2nd one was at a similar time of day, although with better light, and, again, shot whilst walking. The 3rd one was at Songkran in Thailand and I remember nothing of the circumstances for that one....
 
jazzwave said:
Craig,
Amazing series.....luv it
Any shutter speed info for those pictures?
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Ron, here is another one (digital) where I know the shutter speed - 1/60 with a 50mm lens - so I'd hazard a guess that the previous ones are likely to be somewhere around the same speed. A potentially ok speed for a sharp image but not when everyone's moving.

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