Pan F and Pyro, Rodinal

[ray_g]

Anyone with any experience with Pan F in PMK Pyro? How about with Rodinal?

Any sample images would be appreciated.

 

[Ash]

I'll have some results in Rodinal once I get a bottle in the post this week.

 

[Bryce]

I've used Pan F and Rodinal in the past, but its been awhile. The directions that come with the rodinal result in rather contrasty negs, and in my opinion iso 50 is a stretch. I'd expose at 25 and underdevelop.
The grain is beautiful, tiny and razor sharp, but to show it evenly over your whole print you need a good enlarging lens, stopped in the F/8 range, a neg carrier that will hold the neg perfectly flat, and a well aligned enlarger. As for negative scanning, nothing will do that film justice. Tonality is really nice...
I eventually quit using that combination because of the demands it places on the rest of the gear. Better to use a larger negative and faster film in my opinion.

 

[ray_g]

I'll have some results in Rodinal once I get a bottle in the post this week.

Will keep an eye out for them.

 

[ray_g]

I've used Pan F and Rodinal in the past, but its been awhile. The directions that come with the rodinal result in rather contrasty negs, and in my opinion iso 50 is a stretch. I'd expose at 25 and underdevelop.
The grain is beautiful, tiny and razor sharp, but to show it evenly over your whole print you need a good enlarging lens, stopped in the F/8 range, a neg carrier that will hold the neg perfectly flat, and a well aligned enlarger. As for negative scanning, nothing will do that film justice. Tonality is really nice...
I eventually quit using that combination because of the demands it places on the rest of the gear. Better to use a larger negative and faster film in my opinion.

Bryce, that is what I have read as well - iso 25 or 32. I would love a larger neg, but my enlarger (and film scanner) only go to 35mm, so unfortunately, that is not an option. Thanks.

 

[dadsm3]

Ray, here are 3 all in Rodinal 1+25......unfortunately Rodinal, PanF, and my scanner were all new to me at the time (and I even forgot to greyscale the butterfly after scanning as a colour neg), but I was pretty pleased with the results. When I zoomed on the baseball diamonds I could see baseball players and they must have been 3-4 kilometers away.

 

[wintoid]

Here are a couple with PanFPlus and Rodinal, rated at box speed.

 

[ray_g]

Nice samples, guys. What dilution did you use, wintoid?

 

[wintoid]

Almost certainly 1:50 because that's what I almost always use

 

[Trius]

I would never use anything more concentrated than 1:50 on Pan F+. 1:100 is more my style, but in many lighting situations 1:50 (or something in between) could be useful.

 

[Todd.Hanz]

PanF 120 rated at box speed and 510 Pyro (sorry not PMK).

Todd

 

[Todd.Hanz]

35mm, PanF+ at box speed and 510 Pyro.

Todd

 

[FPjohn]

Rodinol 1:50

Rodinol 1:50

Hello:

Pan F in Rodinol 1:50 at iso 50 11-12min.

yours
Frank

 

[stevew]

Pan f+, HC-110

Pan f+, HC-110

HC-110 1:100 14 min. 7 sec per 2 min.


http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=24949&cat=5661

 

[dadsm3]

Wow, nice.
Have a roll in the fridge, was thinking of a bright sunny winter snow scene sometime soon.....(but not TOO soon).

 

[Stephanie Brim]

Out of curiosity, what are the precautions that you guys take when using Pyro? Gloves, mask? Just gloves? I'm thinking of trying it but I want to know what else I should buy with it first.

 

[Kyle]

Do people typically shoot Pan-F at box speed or do you rate it at 32 or even 25? I always shot it at box speed, but I just got another 500' of it and I'm wondering if I could get better results if I rate it slower.

 

[Xmas]

Pan F seemed contrasty for me so I develop 70% of recommended time and temp @ 1:100 and water bath for 5 mins afterwards. it was still contrasty.

Sun and snow will be a good test, if shots critical you might want to bracket.

Tripod recommended...

My results superb, even with my best old J8, no scanner sorry.

Noel

 

[Todd.Hanz]

Steph,
I wear gloves and mask when mixing dry chemicals, gloves when mixing the syrup into a working dillution.

Todd

 

[ray_g]

Todd, is there a big difference between 510 and PMK? The PMK is readily available in liquid concentrate from PF, and I really do not cherish the thought of dealing with raw chemicals for the 510.