Papageorge/Winogrand videos

The Print

The Print

It's interesting, my take away from this is the permanence of the print. His work will be seen by all without regard for software, hardware, file formats etc. It seems much more permanent than something on the screen. The print forces you to make a statement with your image, unchanged, final.

It's also nice to see that you can absorb a large body of work by moving further back, then going close in. While the comments from Papageorge may be agreed or disagreed, what's so great is that the venue and the prints make all that possible.

I guess that's the part that's been missing for me with digital - the darkroom print - the statement that you have to make. A good print is both luck and skill and is usually very hard to reproduce exactly. We can make a zillion digital copies and I think that lessens the value in the long run. Making prints from digital files is good, and the gear still is not so predictable - so a bit of luck and skill.

I need to get that Epson. I'm anxiously awaiting my moo.com order for RFF Postcard Project #6. I haven't made prints in a long time. Will they be any good? I've no gear for the control that I desire. I still remember the box of Ektalure-X postcards that I had cherished, but never used, too long ago.
 
Thank you for those, gns. I know Papageorge mostly through his writings. It was good to see some of this photographs.

The second video is a particular pleasure.

I've been feeling myself loosing a connection to street photograph over the past year. Not sure what to make of it, but watching the second video sort of strengthened that separation. Street photography as an art form seems to me to have breathed its last with Winogrand. As Papageorge's analysis shows, those guys were as interested in exploring photography's capabilities as they were in subject matter. Today there's not much new ground to cover in that regard, and the subject matter itself feels exhausted to me.

Anyway, don't mean to veer so far off topic. Just sharing my unexpected reaction to the second video.

John
 
Street photography as an art form seems to me to have breathed its last with Winogrand.

It does seem that way. Though there is a lot of it being done, has any of it approached what was done in the sixties and seventies? Could it? The Winogrand influence was huge (maybe pervasive) and naturally, new generations of artists reacted as they always do...By veering in another direction (toward the directorial mode, etc.).

A good short read (if you haven't already seen it) from Paul Graham...
http://paulgrahamarchive.com/writings_by.html
 
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