Andrew Touchon
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Andrew Touchon
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Andrew Touchon said:35 mm photos processed in Canoscan 4000FS, 4000 dpi scans converted to 8 bits and resized in Photoshop Elements 2. No other corrections made.
Same as above 100% crops.
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fgianni
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kully said:Well, even just this far this has proved to me that E-6 kicks C-41s bollocks.
It looks like it's even better than B&W.
sf
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fgianni said:It looks like it's even better than B&W.
well . . . .I wouldn't draw too many conclusions about the films from this test. Those negs are not going to be perfectly identical in terms of focus, or more accurately in terms of sharpness, because I wasn't using a remote release, so there might have been some shake occasionally - and it was breezy. You probably saw that there were some negs sharper than others.
Though, it is obvious that the Velvia wins over the other two on account of its apparent lack of grain. Very high resolving power. I did find that my sharpest shots were on the Neopan - as my modified scans show clearly.
In my relatively brief experience as a photographer, B&W low ISO film has been consistently sharper than E-6 come printing or scanning time. Maybe the grain structure just makes it appear so.
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ghost
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once the leafscan 45 arrives and is set up, i'd be glad to join the test.
sf
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well, I sure hope someone out there will have a kit they can send you to scan! Having a leafscan on there would be great.
I think we do have one other very high end scanner (besides my own) coming along for the ride.
I think we do have one other very high end scanner (besides my own) coming along for the ride.
Terence T
Where'd my Bessa go?
shutterflower said:I think we do have one other very high end scanner (besides my own) coming along for the ride.
You do. The Imacon has just made it to California with a scheduled delivery to my Torrance address on the 17th. It should be set up and ready to run only on the 23rd though.
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
Does anyone want me to do any further tests before I send the negs to kully?
See tests at
http://www.fgianni.fastmail.fm/ScannerTest/
See tests at
http://www.fgianni.fastmail.fm/ScannerTest/
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
It would also be useful if we could find a place where to collect all the test results from different scanners.
sf
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fgianni said:It would also be useful if we could find a place where to collect all the test results from different scanners.
that I will do when everyone has posted them.
I could ask people to download an FTP application (PC) and give them the password to upload images directly to my website, but that seems less logical than just waiting till we have a huge pile of images here and picking them off.
I intend to put together a very complete comparison with all the images we get here, and then delete this thread to make things more organized.
If people prefer, they can email me the images : themirana (at) hotmail (dot) com, and I will begin putting them on my site.
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
shutterflower said:that I will do when everyone has posted them.
I could ask people to download an FTP application (PC) and give them the password to upload images directly to my website, but that seems less logical than just waiting till we have a huge pile of images here and picking them off.
I intend to put together a very complete comparison with all the images we get here, and then delete this thread to make things more organized.
If people prefer, they can email me the images : themirana (at) hotmail (dot) com, and I will begin putting them on my site.
I guess you should be able to suck mine from the web address I posted.
x-ray
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Finescan 5000 crops
Finescan 5000 crops
I received my kit today and ran a quick set of scans but did not take the time to do a color calibration for the scanner.
The Fuji Finescan is a 5000 dpi scanner (optical resolution) and will scan a 35mm frame at 4500% at 300dpi. The resulting 16 bit file is 1.4 gigs. To keep files to a reasonable size I scanned the 35mm at 2500% / 300dpi. The 6x4.5's were scanned at 1600% which gave roughly the same file size of 480 megs. The scanner has a true 3.9 Dmax above base density. No sharpening, no curves or corrections were applied to the color. These are straight raw scans. The B&W was scanned with a modest curve applied for contrast. Fuji does not supply profiles for B&W so it's necessary to build your own.
The Fuji scanners are different than most. This unit uses four of Fujis best glass lenses with EBC coatings and auto focuses up to 10mm away from the platten. Each lens is designed for a specific ratio of magnification. The scanning system is an X-Y axis system which means the optimum resolution can be scanned anywhere on the 13x18 platten. No sweet spot in the center, it's the entire area. The software is two different applications. The first app is for capturing and sizing only. In this app you set size and crop, 16 or 8 bit and a profile. The second app is strictly for color editiong. No color editing was done on these images.
The Finescan 5000 is the top of the line flatbed and equals or exceeds the Creo Eversmart Supreme.
I'll post the full image later in the week as time allows. I want to run the color calibration on the scanner and tweek the files in the color editor before posting.
The first images are the B&W negs --- the left image is the 35mm and right MF --- the MF is cropped from a 24x35 inch image and the 35 is about the same.
Finescan 5000 crops
I received my kit today and ran a quick set of scans but did not take the time to do a color calibration for the scanner.
The Fuji Finescan is a 5000 dpi scanner (optical resolution) and will scan a 35mm frame at 4500% at 300dpi. The resulting 16 bit file is 1.4 gigs. To keep files to a reasonable size I scanned the 35mm at 2500% / 300dpi. The 6x4.5's were scanned at 1600% which gave roughly the same file size of 480 megs. The scanner has a true 3.9 Dmax above base density. No sharpening, no curves or corrections were applied to the color. These are straight raw scans. The B&W was scanned with a modest curve applied for contrast. Fuji does not supply profiles for B&W so it's necessary to build your own.
The Fuji scanners are different than most. This unit uses four of Fujis best glass lenses with EBC coatings and auto focuses up to 10mm away from the platten. Each lens is designed for a specific ratio of magnification. The scanning system is an X-Y axis system which means the optimum resolution can be scanned anywhere on the 13x18 platten. No sweet spot in the center, it's the entire area. The software is two different applications. The first app is for capturing and sizing only. In this app you set size and crop, 16 or 8 bit and a profile. The second app is strictly for color editiong. No color editing was done on these images.
The Finescan 5000 is the top of the line flatbed and equals or exceeds the Creo Eversmart Supreme.
I'll post the full image later in the week as time allows. I want to run the color calibration on the scanner and tweek the files in the color editor before posting.
The first images are the B&W negs --- the left image is the 35mm and right MF --- the MF is cropped from a 24x35 inch image and the 35 is about the same.
x-ray
Veteran
Finescan 5000 C-41
Finescan 5000 C-41
Left image 35mm C-41 and right MF
Finescan 5000 C-41
Left image 35mm C-41 and right MF
x-ray
Veteran
Finescan 5000 Transparencies
Finescan 5000 Transparencies
Left is 35mm Velvia and right is MF
Finescan 5000 Transparencies
Left is 35mm Velvia and right is MF
aad
Not so new now.
Hmm-I may post some larger images-but I'm struck by how similar the scans look.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
If it helps, I can run a low-traffic (but fast and with plenty of space) FTP server. I mean I do it already, but i can give access for this project, if necessary.
It won't be open though, only for rff people.
It won't be open though, only for rff people.
sf
Veteran
X-ray, those scans look great. That Fuji is a nice machine.
sf
Veteran
Pherdinand said:If it helps, I can run a low-traffic (but fast and with plenty of space) FTP server. I mean I do it already, but i can give access for this project, if necessary.
It won't be open though, only for rff people.
how would that work?
I have a website that I intend to put all these scans on very soon. I thought I could just hand out my password to everyone. . . . and they could FTP the files into my root directory.
If your FTP plan seems reasonable, it would probably make things faster.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
Your website might be easier for the public.
With my server, one would need to log on via FTP to upload and/or download the results. Only after downloading the files they would be visible to the interested.
Upload might be faster and easier to my server, though.
Whatever you guys prefer.
With my server, one would need to log on via FTP to upload and/or download the results. Only after downloading the files they would be visible to the interested.
Upload might be faster and easier to my server, though.
Whatever you guys prefer.
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StuartR
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Too bad I am going away...I would have loved to participate. I use an Imacon 646.
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