FrozenInTime
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Outside chance - Hasselblad, having seen the error of their ways, commission a Xpan Digital.
Photo Rumors: new M mount camera with CCD sensor to be announced soon
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sevo
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I agree.
If Zeiss are in the game it would be by way of CV - Zeiss haven't been dabbling in small format by themselves since the early seventies, and CV have been their most recent partner/licensee for film only gear. But given that Zeiss are affiliated with Sony where digital is concerned, they will have other fish to fry...
Well, they just released a FF K mount. Would they segment their own market at that moment?
Well, Leica will know best that their lenses won't fill much beyond 24x36 on a high-resolution sensor. And they will hardly introduce a new series of "wide coverage M mount lenses" - Leica are too smart to overload that old mount that way, when they did not re-use the M mount for any of their other recent systems either (where it would not even have broken the coverage).
My guess is that those guys with that never progressing CAD study for a M-mount "digital rangefinder" have determined that they need some extra feature like a custom format to gain some fresh visibility among potential investors.
YYV_146
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Ricoh doesn't have a market there since it's been ~20 years since they released an M lens. But maybe they'd care to dust off the GXR designs and released another, more expensive body. Leica users being able to tolerate higher prices for the M experience is a well-known fact...
As for Leica, the original S (the one that had to be tethered at all times) had a 36x36 CCD that took R lenses. A 30x30 sensor with, say, 32 or 28mp won't significantly tax older designs, while maintaining that wow factor that drives buyers. They could also use a wider sensor, say 40x20, but that sounds less plausible the more I think about it.
I say Leica because *if* this is actual hardware, then they will have to go with a custom solution - short of medium format, there isn't a non 3:2 CCD for photography out there. That pretty much means starting at 5,000 or 10,000 units in a single shipment.
brennanphotoguy
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Wasn't Hasselblad supposed to release some special new camera? I wonder if it's them/Fuji?
Larry Cloetta
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Contax! That's what I am going with. Zeiss had leased the exclusive rights to the Contax name to Kyocera decades ago, and it was in limbo after Kyocera stopped making cameras. But the lease ran out in 2010, giving Zeiss the rights to the name again, so they can either use it themselves on a camera, or lease it out again.
So, I'm going with the forward thinking people at Cosina, who can obviously make camera bodies, and have those production capabilities lying fallow, and who have a history of being unafraid of making niche products (new lenses for Contax rf mount!) leasing the name from Zeiss this time around and resurrecting the Contax as an upscale, niche brand with a CCD sensor (which some people actually prefer). Which is why Cosina stopped making film bodies recently. Why would anyone buy this body, other than the CCD sensor? If they put a Contax Yashica mount on it, there would be a ready made market of everyone who already has a stock of those lenses. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
That's the idle conjecture on my part.
Very idle.
Makes sense to me, or at least as much sense as anything else.
So, I'm going with the forward thinking people at Cosina, who can obviously make camera bodies, and have those production capabilities lying fallow, and who have a history of being unafraid of making niche products (new lenses for Contax rf mount!) leasing the name from Zeiss this time around and resurrecting the Contax as an upscale, niche brand with a CCD sensor (which some people actually prefer). Which is why Cosina stopped making film bodies recently. Why would anyone buy this body, other than the CCD sensor? If they put a Contax Yashica mount on it, there would be a ready made market of everyone who already has a stock of those lenses. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
That's the idle conjecture on my part.
Very idle.
Makes sense to me, or at least as much sense as anything else.
jsrockit
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jsrockit
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I can't imagine that's a great way to go for a new camera.
Godfrey
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As long as we're talking fantasies ...
A 36x36 mm sensor with 36 Mpixel resolution in a fixed lens body with a top notch 25mm lens along with Live View and a 4.1 Mpixel EVF would be a superb piece of equipment.
Of course, it completely rules out CCD sensors. 🙄
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A 36x36 mm sensor with 36 Mpixel resolution in a fixed lens body with a top notch 25mm lens along with Live View and a 4.1 Mpixel EVF would be a superb piece of equipment.
Of course, it completely rules out CCD sensors. 🙄
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Larry Cloetta
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Okay. There are a lot of people who can't imagine that any new camera with a CCD is a great way to go. And some who think exactly the opposite.
brennanphotoguy
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I agree. M mount makes more sense because it's a mount that's currently in production. And most people that have C/Y mount lenses would rather adapt them to what they already own than buy into an entirely new system.
brennanphotoguy
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Maybe I could be right...
http://photorumors.com/2016/06/17/hasselblad-rumored-to-announce-a-new-camera-next-week/
http://photorumors.com/2016/06/17/hasselblad-rumored-to-announce-a-new-camera-next-week/
jsrockit
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True, I didn't mean to offend.
jsrockit
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Wow, this would be wonderful... except that I won't be able to feel good about buying it. That said, Hasselblad uses CMOS in its medium format cameras.
willie_901
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Photon counting devices (a.k.a. sensors) can't have a 'mid range'.
A photon is either counted (its energy is converted to electrical charge) or it isn't. When the shutter is open the data collection process is precisely linear.
By contrast, camera data streams (everything that happens to the DC voltage signals emitted by the sensor after the shutter closes) can be non-linear.
In fact different brands, and even different models with in a brand, will have different non-linear responses.
CCD sensor technologies may or may not generate the aesthetically pleasing midrange rendering enjoyed by M9 owners.
brennanphotoguy
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They could be coming up with a lower cost option for a different price bracket. Or it's not medium format. Or it's gonna be high end and Fuji will release a "budget" version. Or they could just be collaborating. Who knows.
brennanphotoguy
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YYV_146
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Wow...this might actually be a digital Xpan in M mount. I would be completely sold on a number of levels 😱
...and it won't be. Oh well 🙁
I thought Hasselblad only rebadged Sony cams, marking them up 10x
brennanphotoguy
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The have since fired the guy who pushed for that stuff.
Godfrey
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While I have little interest in 24x65 mm format, a 36x36 format fixed lens, wide camera as above would be a natural - a digital Hasselblad SWC. 🙂
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