Photography and Personal Identity

My grandfather was an avid photographer. I don't know how or why he got into it. He was a mechanical engineer, a very good one. So I suppose that the techinical side of elegant machines interested him.

He mainly took family and vacation pictures. I have memories of his arrivals at our house, often with his latest camera. I still have one of his cameras, a Voightlander Bessamatic. The shutter is frozen on it, and I haven't been able to find anyone to fix it. Grimes sent it back, with apologies.

My grandfather was a good friend of Russell Porter, the polymath who among other things helped build the Mount Palomar telescope and founded a amateur telescope building society, Stellafane, that endures to this day. Perhaps this interest also inspired my grandfather's interest in photography. Later in life, he organized all of Porter's photographs of his Artic expeditions. All of my grandfathers own photographs are neatly organized and numbered in file drawers.

So I supposed I have some genetic quirk that tended me towards amateur photography. In college I learned how to use a darkroom as part of working on the school paper.

After college I bought an Olympus OM1 that served me well for many years. I got some black and white darkroom equipment which I learned to use in a number of small and squalid apartments as I moved around in my restless early years.

Of course I took lots of pictures of the children when they were young. Then other matters saw the camera mainly on the shelf, until the advent of digital photography. This revived some interest on my part. It was initially very cool to get pictures so quickly. Looking back at them, however, I am distressed at how poor they are compared to earlier pictures taken with the OM1.

Then my youngest son had to get a camera for a photography class. I found one on EBay. You can guess the rest.....................

I'm back taking photographs with film cameras, and enjoying it tremendously. Part of that enjoyment comes from this forum, where like minded souls can gather, talk and look at each other's work.
 
this is my first posting to RFF... so i'll try not to step on any parts of my anatomy. i have been doing some sort of photography off and on for over 30 years. learned basic B&W while in the army and picked up a ton of camera equipment later on in various parts of Asia. it has always been in me to capture moments in time to share with others.... it is a part of my make-up and i hope to continue to do it for years to come.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Dear Stephanie,

There's a story behind the Leicas...

When I was about 20 and my girlfriend was 17 or so (about 1970) she wanted a simple, reliable camera. Hand in hand we found her a 1930 Leica II -- yes, 1930 because it had been converted at the factory from an A. It cost GBP 20.

Quite soon she insisted I buy my own Leica (she hardly got to use hers), so I bought a 1936 IIIa for GBP 30. We broke up in about 1972/3 and divided the Leica gear we owned in common such as a 9cm 'fat barrel' Elmar.

The first M followed in 1974, an old M3. Most of the others were the result of wheeling and dealing. For example my new M4P was a direct swap for a black paint M3 bought at GBP 235 -- about a third of the price of the M4P -- and my 90/2 Summicron was a direct swap for a Leica tri-lens turret bought for GBP 86.

There's also the question of what you give up. Many years ago, at a camera club, a fellow member said, "I wish I could afford cameras like yours." At the end of the evening he drove off in a new Ford and I drove away in a 14-year-old Rover 105S.

Take what you want, and pay for it, saieth the LORD...

What degree are you aiming for? I have an LL.B., which is effectively a degree in BS, and it's always stood me in good stead!

Cheers,

Roger (www.rogerandfrances.com -- and Photo School is now up and running)

I'm actually planning to go for a Bachelor of Arts degree in Photography and possibly culinary school on the side. I'm really hoping that they don't decide to start teaching a lot of digital while I'm still there because it took the fun out of it for me, which is why I gave digital up in the first place.

I've always liked getting my hands dirty and so I prefer mediums which allow me to do so. Doing everything with my photography on a computer doesn't appeal to me, just like painting on a computer doesn't appeal to me and collage on the computer doesn't appeal to me. I prefer film, paper, and paint. I feel more of a sense of accomplishment if I've done everything without the use of a computer than I do with it. In the age where anyone can create something that at least passes as art, I prefer proven technique over modern ideals.

Photography allows me to get lost in what I see and the beauty around me. I find comfort in loading the film in the camera, choosing shutter and aperture, composing or not composing, and finally taking the shot. I photograph what moves me and my photography tells things about me. I find beauty in the ordinary. It is who I am.
 
taffer said:
Mixing languages is IMHO a natural thing, as it's a normal tool we use daily.
Oscar

Normal it isn't but it happens next to artificial political borders running across a closed cultural area.

Mais jetz chasse emol de giggle usem jardin un schwetz' e korrekt Englisch again !

Best,
Bertram
 
Stephanie, for such a young woman you have a remarkably mature and wise grasp. Many folks will go through life without achieving your insights. This is not a flip compliment. I spent 22 years teaching photography and creative writing in several colleges and universities, working everyday with smart and creative young folks.

The degree in photography (usually a BFA) and an interest in culinary arts could be combined.

You could become a very good gourmet foods photographer. Commercial, for sure, but a damned hard and exacting field. I once worked in a commercial house in St. Louis (The Brass Shutter). In my little truth booth I shot wine glasses (part time job to earn a bit of money as my teaching job across the river in Illinois didn't pay much). But from the next door booth lovely smells emerged on occasion, and one day I went over for a look see. Some client was bringing in all of these freshly cooked meals to be photographed, I think for some food magazine. The photographer was an intense young kid who seemed to know what he was doing. The meals came with an entourage, including an art director. The kid was using a 4X5, shooting (I guess) ektachrome.

So when you look in a coffee table cookbook and drool at the photos because , they're so good, someone out there knows the tricks.

AS for me, I couldn't stand the same-o, same-o, especially when I started having bad dreams about wine glasses. A good wine glass deserves better.

Ted
 
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Mmm...food.

Yeah, I'd love to mix my love of food and cooking with photography. The closest I've come so far, though, is the picture of the pan I took after we finished the tacos one night! Horrible lighting. Don't get me started. I had *nothing* to work with. 😀
 
Ted, utilizas un gran castellano. Tienes la gran capacidad de diferenciar las maneras y vicios propios de un idioma. Para un español no es facil tampoco adaptarse a las palabras de ciertos paises, pues rompen totalmente con la significacion original de su lengua materna. Ciertamente el español, como supongo q el ingles, es un idioma universal, capaz de enriquecerse mezclandose con otras lenguas y aportando neologismos y expresiones vulgares de hoy en dia. El español (castellano) es mucho más que La Macarena, mucho más que El Quijote. Lo mismo que el ingles es mucho más que The Beatles, y mucho más que Hamlet. Las lenguas nos han de unir mas q separar. Son la identidad d un pueblo, su medio mas ´vulgar´ de comunicacion, el que mas ´gastan´, pero el que mas riqueza de variaciones y matices adquiere junto a la tradicion de un pueblo.

Oscar, el vasco, he oido de todo, desde ser una lengua con influencia germanica, hasta lo q tu dices, paises remotos. Todo esto se solucionaria con hacer una prueba de ADN a Arzalluz y al de algun miembro de una tribu de los valles del rio Niger. Lo mismo tienen compatibilidad absoluta, y el ´autentico vasco´ tiene como hermanos en la genealogia historica a los habitantes de las tribus del rio Niger ...
 
Welcome to RFF, tekgypsy! I see some familiar cityscape in the background of your avatar. There seem to be certain centers of RFForum membership, and the NW is one, Toronto is another, and Singapore... SE Australia... maybe Barcelona... just a few that come to mind. this forum is a great place to hang out, but it's getting too busy for me to keep up with now.
 
Bertam2,
Your avitar reminds me of Queen's song, "Fat Bottom Girls" - LOL.
Very cute.
 
nwcanonman said:
Bertam2,
Your avitar reminds me of Queen's song, "Fat Bottom Girls" - LOL.
Very cute.
... or of Robert Crumb's comics ! 😀
Anyway it is something like an alternative understanding of female beauty , and that makes it pleasant for me.
Best,
Bertram
 
Pherdinand said:
fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go'round!
yeah!
🙂
True, tho "fat " is a somehow a sad word for that, "baroque " or "opulent" sounds more positive 😀
Best,
Bertram
 
"What is in a name? That which we call a rose, would, by any other name, smell as sweet..."

A probable mangling of Shakespeare, but I'm not up to googling it right now. Anyway I think it fits here. Rubensesque always works for me as a word for that look that I tend to prefer.

William
 
backalley photo said:
voluptuous...

sounds so nasty! but i like how it rolls off the tongue.

joe

Hmm, as I see you have understood this artist very well, Joe ! 🙂
Maybe that's something more for mature men, who have learned ALL the lessons of the complex biology of eroticism, so to speak 😀 You know what I mean.
Emulsionly,
Bertram
Who has more staues in the pipeline btw...
 
A fun thread to come home to! I was out of the country and had limited Internet access.

You folks have such eloquent and passionate reasons for doing photography. Mine are rather mundane:

1. I like taking pictures
2. I feel compelled to take pictures fairly frequently

Not much more to it than that. I've always liked equipment with knobs, dials and levers, so that explains some of my attraction to manual cameras. I also love electronics and enjoy anything computer based, which explains why I also like digital. I really don't care all that much about which camera I use as long as it's a camera I like and I can take some pictures with it...

Gene
 
backalley photo said:
voluptuous...

sounds so nasty! but i like how it rolls off the tongue.

joe
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Joe,
Voluptous and Curvatous. Both great ways to describe a lovely female form. Nothing "nasty" about it, it's the normal human sex-drive. 😀
 
backalley photo said:
i guess it depends on HOW you say it!

joe
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Joe,
Or who we say it too? :angel:
 
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