Roger Hicks
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The body alone is rumored to be at $1,400, a kit will likely cost around $2,000. Given how people whined when the price of X100 announced, I doubt it would be as "successful" as the M43/NEX options that cost 1/2 or 1/3.
There might be more profit in it, though, if people buy what they think will give them better pictures, rather than cheap stuff they think they can afford. But I agree that this market may be VERY price-sensitive.
Cheers,
R.
j j
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There's a new model WITHOUT all the gimmicks and displays? AND that doesn't resemble a tub of lard with a lens on the front?
Cheers,
R.
No. But luckily there are two old models of 5D that do not resemble animal fats (in or out of containers) and do not have gimmicks.
I have yet to see a valid reason why a camera without displays is a good thing.
The body alone is rumored to be at $1,400, a kit will likely cost around $2,000. Given how people whined when the price of X100 announced, I doubt it would be as "successful" as the M43/NEX options that cost 1/2 or 1/3.
$2,000 is what I would think a kit would cost... and this system should negate some of the shortcomings of the other systems you refer to. To me, the VF, the ergonomics, and some quality primes make up for the price difference. But of course, people will complain about how their crazy expensive leica wides don't perform well on it but at the same time say the M9 is too expensive for their very expensive wides.
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No. But luckily there are two old models of 5D that do not resemble animal fats (in or out of containers) and do not have gimmicks.
No gimmicks? Come on...DSLRs are full of gimmicks.
celluloidprop
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A Nex-7 and Zeiss 24 is ~$2100 (if they were available), I would expect the new Fuji to come in around there.
j j
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No gimmicks? Come on...DSLRs are full of gimmicks.
What did you have in mind on the 5D? They seem to me to be rather straight-up functional cameras with fewer than the average number of wisecracks, gags and switcheroos.
newsgrunt
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not ff so not considering. also not feeling the silver trim around the controls and bezels on the back. looks cheesy
What did you have in mind on the 5D? They seem to me to be rather straight-up functional cameras with fewer than the average number of wisecracks, gags and switcheroos.
To me, anything more than a shutter speed dial, an aperture ring, centered weighted metering, and a simple menu is a gimmick.
not ff so not considering. also not feeling the silver trim around the controls and bezels on the back. looks cheesy
Why does full frame matter if they are making lenses with APS-C in mind? Also, the unit is a prototype... not the finished product.
bensyverson
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Active autofocus systems can focus in zero light. That includes active infrared (like the Hexar AF) and sonar (like the Polaroid 680).There's not a camera that exists that you can demand accurate and fast AF at 0 EV - even the high-end Nikons are going to struggle or require AF assist at that.
Roger Hicks
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To me, anything more than a shutter speed dial, an aperture ring, centered weighted metering, and a simple menu is a gimmick.![]()
I'll drink to that (but then, I'll drink to most things). I can even live without the metering (I do with manual lenses on my D70). For digicams, I'm more than happy to add a screen on the back, and the necessary extra buttons and dials. But more than one LCD display, and 20+ buttons, dials and switches, plus countless sub-menus... No.
Cheers,
R.
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kxl
Social Documentary
I predict that a new Hawk Peng helicoid adapter for M-mount lenses won't be far behind... 
infrequent
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Sony?
Sony?
There used to be some sony digicams that used to have infrared focus. I am thinking circa 2005/06?
Sony?
Hexar AF, some polaroids, Fuji GA 645 (if I remember correctly) basically anything with an active infrared system will focus instantly in zero light. No such digicam exists unfortunately.
There used to be some sony digicams that used to have infrared focus. I am thinking circa 2005/06?
Interesting...no EVF in the LX?
http://photorumors.com/2011/11/18/rumors-fuji-lx10-will-have-an-aps-c-sensor-no-hybrid-viewfinder/
http://photorumors.com/2011/11/18/rumors-fuji-lx10-will-have-an-aps-c-sensor-no-hybrid-viewfinder/
bwcolor
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The camera will have, at minimum, frame lines that adjust with lens and parallax. Also, will have info. in viewfinder and the ability to choose autofocus point. Another thing to consider, without EVF, how will they allow for viewfinder manual focus? This report just doesn't make sense, unless another technology provides these functions.
Perhaps, the more that we know... the less we know.
Perhaps, the more that we know... the less we know.
Yes, bw, it doesn't make sense, but I'm not big on EVFs... so I'm cool with OVF and AF.
bensyverson
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It would be highly weird for them to not include the hybrid VF, but it's all speculation at this point.
I actually wouldn't mind an optical viewfinder, as long as they include an AF confirmation light.
I actually wouldn't mind an optical viewfinder, as long as they include an AF confirmation light.
bwcolor
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Yes, bw, it doesn't make sense, but I'm not big on EVFs... so I'm cool with OVF and AF.
Sure, I mainly use the X100's optical viewfinder. I'm a happy camper if that is what we have minus the switch to full EVF, but focus peaking is useful with manual lenses. We will see.
gavinlg
Veteran
The prototype pictures have a sensor on the right of the eyepiece, which means that up to that particular point, it does have an EVF.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
Interesting...no EVF in the LX?
http://photorumors.com/2011/11/18/rumors-fuji-lx10-will-have-an-aps-c-sensor-no-hybrid-viewfinder/
Well, the original rumor, on 相机入魔 in Chinese, does NOT say "only optical". In fact, all it says, as the translation shows too, is that the viewfinder is optical.
A hybrid would be nice, but the OVF is the most important part, for me.
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