Please recommend: body for 35mm FOV

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So I need a camera for this year's summer camp. We camp in the woods. Compactness, sturdy build, low cost, and battery-independence are on the menu. My Zorki-1 would be perfect for the job, BUT this year I want to be able to shoot a 35mm lens too. The problem is that even that small MiniFinder will probably ruin the camera's compact, sleek lines that make for such good pocketability. And it's expensive, to boot. I can afford having a Zorki stolen, but losing that finder would be upsetting, to say the least.

So what to do? Over the past years, I've tried the various fixed-lens rangefinders and have been less than pleased with their build quality. The Olympus XA was hell for rewinding (and a bummer in low light); I destroyed the film advance and frame counter on a friend's Yashica-something-or-other through mere (though admittedly heavy) use, and the aperture ring on my Minolta Hi-Matic came loose, and was too flimsy to use, anyway.

I suspect that the build quality on the Bessa R is somewhat better than on the fixed-lens RFs, but $200 a pop for a second-hand plastic body that is known to be error-prone, when I can get a perfect Zorki-1 with CLA for $50; a camera even I am incapable of destroying through heavy use... well. I shot over a thousand frames with a single Zorki-1 body in the past 2 weeks (on commission for a travel guide), and the camera is still as smooth as butter.

So, is there a solution? It's been bugging me for months now. Find a camera *for 35mm FOV* that I am happy with (and can afford!), and I'll treat you to a fine reward. Really.
 
Consider a user/bargain grade Canon 7. It's still going to be around $175 - 200, less if it's really ugly and the meter is inop. However, the camera itself is built very well and has an excellent finder with bright lines for 35, 50, 85/100 & 135. The Jupiter-12 fits it fine (see my avatar 🙂 ) unlike the Bessas. But it was a top of the line camera in its day and even a beat up one will still show that quality.

William
 
AFAIK all FSU bodies have 50mm viewfinders and
rely on accessory finders for other focal lengths.

I too reject the idea of an auxiliary finder.
If my new Zorki 4K had 35mm framelines
I would definitely buy a nice Jupiter 12...

"Excelsior, you fathead!"
-Chris-
 
Chris - actually, I believe there was one FSU body with built-in 35mm viewfinder (no framelines). In fact, I think William (above) used to have it in his avatar. However, it's bigger and clunkier than an SLR.

Rover - Thanks... I guess the fact that we're on RFF made me forget to mention that I'd prefer it to be a rangefinder. 🙂

William - you may be onto something. The 7s looks nice, too, with that enormous rangefinder base and modern light meter, but it seems to be rather rare, as I haven't been able to find one for sale. Shall I post a WTB?
 
Quotes from an RFF member:

[18:57] Oscar: I can't see more than M2 now
[18:58] Oscar: It's really great, and with that wonderful Summaron 35/2.8 you can operate all with one hand only
[19:24] Oscar: The clean VF is a plus


😀
 
I just exposed a roll with a 35mm Summaron on my Zorki, without an extra VF. Just guesstimating the FOV. I decided to take this route after seeing how much of my 50mm FOV they chopped off when printing. I'll tell you how it went.


Peter.
 
If you really need 35mm FOV, then a Yashica 35CC (35/1.8 lens with a great reputation). But it is battery dependent. If 40mm FOV will do, then there are lots of fixed lens RF's to go for - Canonet, Olympus etc.
 
The Olympus 35RC is compact, very solid and not battery-dependent.
I like its full-information viewfinder and SLR-style shutter speed knob
located on top. This model is cheap and plentiful used.

My 35RC was around my neck when I tripped up a flight of
concrete stairs outdoors and landed full-force on top of it.
I cracked the filter and the top cover got scratched,
but the little Olympus still worked 100% afterwards.

The Olympus 35RC has a sharp 42mm f/2.8 lens
and uses hard-to-find 43.5mm filters.

"Excelsior, you fathead!"
-Chris-
 
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Heretical SLR suggestion

Heretical SLR suggestion

The Pentax ME is battery dependent but mine has never let me down.
If you must have full manual control look for an ME Super instead.

Pair one of these tiny SLRs with an XR Rikenon or Rikenon-P 35/2.8 lens
and you will have a very nice compact 35mm outfit for well under $100.

"Excelsior, you fathead!"
-Chris-
 
Kris said:
Quotes from an RFF member:

[18:57] Oscar: I can't see more than M2 now
[18:58] Oscar: It's really great, and with that wonderful Summaron 35/2.8 you can operate all with one hand only
[19:24] Oscar: The clean VF is a plus


😀

Kris I must learn to be VERY careful on what I write you on msn 😀 😀 😀

[16:25] Oscar: M2 ain't exactly cheap 😛
 
Now that I think, I have one of those user grade Canon 7's, truth is it has some issues but is a perfect user...

Hmmm... 🙄
 
This may be slightly out of line, but have you considered a non-rangefinder P&S with GREAT 40mm lens, AE Priority, and with a small built in flash?

Check out a Leica Minilux or CM. They are both available very reasonably used in virtually new condition.

Best,

Ray



I have a CM which takes pictures that can rival my M lenses.
 
1. Buy a disposable P&S type camera (most have a 35mm-ish lens/finder)


2. Remove viewfinder from camera


3. Get creative with some cardboard/glue/metal


4. Mount on Zorki-1


Voila!
 
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