Evanjoe610
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Margus and Bruno,
You are correct in stating " you get what you pay for".
The Linotype Tango is similar to the ICG as it is also a vertical scanner. A used Linotype or Hell scanner can purchased from Karl Husdon of Kiel, Germany.
Here is his website: http://www.hudsongrafik.com/?p=equip
If I had the money and have customers, I would buy the ICG.
For now I will continue to use my Mac based scanners (Imacon & Creo/Scitex) on my legacy equipment. The Imacon can be used on PC running Windows 7 Pro using a Ratoc FRS1X adapter.
You are correct in stating " you get what you pay for".
The Linotype Tango is similar to the ICG as it is also a vertical scanner. A used Linotype or Hell scanner can purchased from Karl Husdon of Kiel, Germany.
Here is his website: http://www.hudsongrafik.com/?p=equip
If I had the money and have customers, I would buy the ICG.
For now I will continue to use my Mac based scanners (Imacon & Creo/Scitex) on my legacy equipment. The Imacon can be used on PC running Windows 7 Pro using a Ratoc FRS1X adapter.
Bruno Gracia
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thank You both, mmmm... probably best solution is leave other people do the work and pay for it.
tsiklonaut
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Panama City silouette by tsiklonaut, on Flickr
Nicaraguan street by tsiklonaut, on Flickr
Guadalupe church, Granada by tsiklonaut, on Flickr
Evanjoe610
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Margus,
Nice photos! Are these your own photos that you shot over the years? I 'm guessing that you do a lot of traveling. What equipment do you use to shot with?
Evan
Nice photos! Are these your own photos that you shot over the years? I 'm guessing that you do a lot of traveling. What equipment do you use to shot with?
Evan
tsiklonaut
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I guess it sums up drum scanning for those not keen to the hassles involved in the process of getting the high-end quality drumscans. It's definitely not for everyone... And hence not the cheapest when using as service, but well worth every penny if you ask me, since the quality and rendering is not only at the top notch level but also unique throught those PMTs.
Hi Evan,
I'm now living normal life again w/o much travelling, but yes, I did a round the world expedition on my motorcycle some years ago and slowly scanning those film materials. Most of them are from an old Pentax 67 camera (around as old as I am).
Cheers,
Margus
Evanjoe610
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Margus,
If that is your photo, then you are NOT too old! Gracefulness comes with age and with that comes KNOWLEDGE!
The Scanmate 11000 is a Midrange scanner that was born out of the need for a LESS expensive scanner that once rule the Color Separation world. The Hell scanners were the very BEST and they had the best RGB workflow.
When the cost of these original monster-size scanner exceed the budget of many prepress house, Crosfield intro their line of scanners. Their legacy was the Scan to RGB, then CONVERT on the fly from RGB to CMYK YOU are absolutely right in the hands of an experience operator, they can MAKE or BREAK the PrePress house for QUALITY SCANS!
With the introduction of the Creo/Scitex Eversmart scanners, they were one of the very first true quality Flatbed that was in this upper Mid-Range of scanners. We (Time magazine) had a portable Scitex scanner 342L that had more Frequent Flier mileage on it. These portable scanners had max resolution up to 5600 and was quite often used at the Olympics and whatever length event that required fast scans to be transmitted back to NY.
I learned on many of these drum scanners, midrange scanners, and eventually onto the Scitex system. The Hasselblad Flextight was their version of a lower-midrange scanner that satisfied the needs of many photographers who wanted the quality of highend flatbed, but could not afford the asking price and its associated maintenance plan. I like what I saw and eventually bought into the Precision II along with my (3) Scitex scanners due to lack of available room in my house. I have narrow it down to 3 film scanner as mention previously.
If that is your photo, then you are NOT too old! Gracefulness comes with age and with that comes KNOWLEDGE!
The Scanmate 11000 is a Midrange scanner that was born out of the need for a LESS expensive scanner that once rule the Color Separation world. The Hell scanners were the very BEST and they had the best RGB workflow.
When the cost of these original monster-size scanner exceed the budget of many prepress house, Crosfield intro their line of scanners. Their legacy was the Scan to RGB, then CONVERT on the fly from RGB to CMYK YOU are absolutely right in the hands of an experience operator, they can MAKE or BREAK the PrePress house for QUALITY SCANS!
With the introduction of the Creo/Scitex Eversmart scanners, they were one of the very first true quality Flatbed that was in this upper Mid-Range of scanners. We (Time magazine) had a portable Scitex scanner 342L that had more Frequent Flier mileage on it. These portable scanners had max resolution up to 5600 and was quite often used at the Olympics and whatever length event that required fast scans to be transmitted back to NY.
I learned on many of these drum scanners, midrange scanners, and eventually onto the Scitex system. The Hasselblad Flextight was their version of a lower-midrange scanner that satisfied the needs of many photographers who wanted the quality of highend flatbed, but could not afford the asking price and its associated maintenance plan. I like what I saw and eventually bought into the Precision II along with my (3) Scitex scanners due to lack of available room in my house. I have narrow it down to 3 film scanner as mention previously.
Bruno Gracia
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Margus and Evan, finally I will buy the SM 11000... let's go! 
Fernando2
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Best of luck Bruno!
If properly serviced, and after some learning curve (not too steep, I assure you: ask me if needed), you'll be blessed with extremely high quality scans.
Fernando
If properly serviced, and after some learning curve (not too steep, I assure you: ask me if needed), you'll be blessed with extremely high quality scans.
Fernando
Bruno Gracia
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Thanks Fernando!
You have a PM
You have a PM
tsiklonaut
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Good choice Bruno!
It's definitely among the best if not the best desktop drumscanner ever made.
Thanks Evan,
It's not my pic, I'm around half younger It's actually one guy in my village, an ex-Chernobyl rescue veteran and very decent guy, despite his an alcoholic but unusual one with character, he used to shoot LF himself and we talk alot about photography. I got this portrait from him one day in his usual element. So now this is kind of my mascot on avatar
Cheers,
Margus
It's definitely among the best if not the best desktop drumscanner ever made.
Thanks Evan,
It's not my pic, I'm around half younger
It's actually one guy in my village, an ex-Chernobyl rescue veteran and very decent guy, despite his an alcoholic but unusual one with character, he used to shoot LF himself and we talk alot about photography. I got this portrait from him one day in his usual element. So now this is kind of my mascot on avatar Cheers,
Margus
jzagaja
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tsiklonaut
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Yup, definitely repaired by someone. My SM11K control board has no loose cables. I've seen one ScanMate 3000 with strage additional cables on control board, but they were very neatly done (much better than the one pictured here) so it could be some late-factory modification before they shipped to the client.
jzagaja
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I've asked if ABC Scan could inspect my control board or send me new one but they don't want
Evanjoe610
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Jzagaja,
Sometimes field service techs make "modifications" to certain circuit boards for temporary use. It would sound like a "Jumper" wire to me. Look it over carefully to see that is seated properly. If you are able to a electronic schematic drawing from ABC Scan, that would help you to diagnosis the issue.
Eventually I will look for a similar drum scanner that I could use on a higher OS than OS9.2. Maybe even Windows Vista if possible.
Margus,
Good photo of that gentleman. The pose gives an air of knowledge!
Sometimes field service techs make "modifications" to certain circuit boards for temporary use. It would sound like a "Jumper" wire to me. Look it over carefully to see that is seated properly. If you are able to a electronic schematic drawing from ABC Scan, that would help you to diagnosis the issue.
Eventually I will look for a similar drum scanner that I could use on a higher OS than OS9.2. Maybe even Windows Vista if possible.
Margus,
Good photo of that gentleman. The pose gives an air of knowledge!
Fernando2
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For sure I'm stating the obvious, but just to be sure:
- is the terminator OK?
- scanner SCSI ID set to 5, just to maximize compatibility?
- scanner turned on a few seconds before turning on the Mac?
- does it make that typical "blink" (briefly turns on the motor) during OS boot, or nothing at all?
Evanjoe610
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Jzagaja,
What Fernando listed is true. Have you checked your connection and start up the scanner FIRST before you start up the Mac?
How long have you had this scanner? Was it working prior to the current state ITS IN , to what you mention above?
The one draw back to all SCSI & Firewire scanners regardless to how it is connected and what OS you are using...
What Fernando listed is true. Have you checked your connection and start up the scanner FIRST before you start up the Mac?
How long have you had this scanner? Was it working prior to the current state ITS IN , to what you mention above?
The one draw back to all SCSI & Firewire scanners regardless to how it is connected and what OS you are using...
jzagaja
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It does "blink" when computer starts. First of all scanner should be visible in System Profiler right? It dosen't History of this scanner is unknown for me so I don't know if it worked or not
History of this scanner is unknown for me so I don't know if it worked or not
tsiklonaut
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It does "blink" when computer starts. First of all scanner should be visible in System Profiler right? It dosen't
Are you in OS9 or OSX?
In OS9 is shows under Adaptec SCSI Probe or similar special SCSI mapping application. In any case, if CQscan can't find the scanner, then there's no scanner "seen" by the computer.
Make sure you have good SCSI termination, buy both active and passive SCSI terminators and test both terminating your SCSI electrical circuit (switch off all equipment every time you make hadware changes). SCSI terminators go cheap in eBay. Also just in case buy additional SCSI cable - preferrably short cable since long SCSI cables (2m+) can suffer under data transmission problems.
Try different SCSI ID numbers on the scanner - it should be seen by computer if ID is run from any number between 1 to 5 (every time switch off computer and scanner when you change the ID number with thumbwheel).
In OS9 kill as many unnecessary extensions as you can (voice recognitions etc etc)
OSX - with many Adaptec cards you can try to to delete some files from the /System/Library/Extensions folder:
Adaptec 290X-2930.kext
Adaptec 29160x.kext
Adaptec 39160x.kext
But leaving the file:
Adaptec 78XXSCSI.kext
Then restart and see if the computer sees the scanner. System Profiler should see your SCSI card at least.
Also with OSX you need to use 10.3 or 10.4, but I've experienced some stability problems with the OS10.4. I'll downgrade to 10.3 in near-days myself since it's proven to be a better SCSI-platform on my G4.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Margus
jzagaja
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I have passive terminator and OS X. 10.3. I desoldered darlington array in power supply board (soldered new one) so I'm a bit frighten of making things worse. I use Atto UL3D SCSI card in my G4 with vhdci to cen50 cable.
Evanjoe610
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Jzagaja,
Was the scanner running prior to your desoldering the wire?Did you ever use the scanner prior to this incident?
Or did you recently purchased the scanner to discover that it wasn't responding?
Was the scanner running prior to your desoldering the wire?Did you ever use the scanner prior to this incident?
Or did you recently purchased the scanner to discover that it wasn't responding?