Pros/cons of using M lenses on G1

Krosya said:
Funny, I remeber when Epson RD1 came out. And the one "issue" that people complained the most was the crop factor. Fact that it's not a full frame. Than M8 came out. Amoung others - same complaint - crop factor. "We want Full Frame" speeches.
Now this camera, -G1 comes out. Even larger crop factor. Not a "true" RF camera, like Rd1 and M8, yet all of a sudden it seems that more people are willing to get one, crop factor is not such a big deal, etc. etc.
So what gives? Is it simply the fact that G1 is cheaper than others? Or true Rf is not really what people wanted anyway, but rather a small camera they can put M-mount lens on?
I'm just trying to understand the excitement about this G1 camera.
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for me, i like the g1 on it's own, it's small, easy to use and has a sharp kit lens.
what is exciting is that it can use the m mount lenses (a bonus, if you will) and i can easily afford it.

i would prefer a real rangefinder but that choice, for me, is limited to a used rd1 and i think that the g1 is a better route for now.

joe
 
cmog, I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps it's the time it takes to focus it in manual mode. I would like to see some people pictures where stuff is happening! 🙂
 
Krosya said:
Funny, I remeber when Epson RD1 came out. And the one "issue" that people complained the most was the crop factor. Fact that it's not a full frame. Than M8 came out. Amoung others - same complaint - crop factor. "We want Full Frame" speeches.
Now this camera, -G1 comes out. Even larger crop factor. Not a "true" RF camera, like Rd1 and M8, yet all of a sudden it seems that more people are willing to get one, crop factor is not such a big deal, etc. etc.
So what gives? Is it simply the fact that G1 is cheaper than others? Or true Rf is not really what people wanted anyway, but rather a small camera they can put M-mount lens on?
I'm just trying to understand the excitement about this G1 camera.
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m4/3rds in it's native mount with it's native lenses has no crop factor. It's already full frame. The lenses are designed to be used on that sensor, thus making it full frame. It has a crop factor when using non native lenses but who cares - when you see the quality of the m4/3rds glass you won't care anymore.
 
kit lens, 800 iso

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back alley said:
i know, i just felt like posting a pic.
probably should have found a different thread.
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Post more if you like, you're furthering my point that the quality of the m4/3rds lenses is good enough to negate the need for just about anything else. It's nice to experiment of course with older glass but it won't be of the same optical quality.
 
fdigital said:
Post more if you like, you're furthering my point that the quality of the m4/3rds lenses is good enough to negate the need for just about anything else. It's nice to experiment of course with older glass but it won't be of the same optical quality.
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i agree, there is no NEED for lenses other than those designed for the g1 - i just think it will be a hoot to play with others though.

joe
 
Your shots look great Joe.

But I have seen some really funky looking OOF backgrounds from that longer zoom (posted over on getdpi). The consensus was that it was atmospheric turbulence, but I have shot a ton of 400+ mm on other camera and never seen anything close to that effect ( and these were winter street shots).

It will be interesting to see what you think of that lens.
 
i saw those shots also and can't say for sure what it is...but i have seen that effect in person right here in the frozen north. in winter if i take my hat off the steam just rises.

lord knows when my lens will show up, prodigital lost the paperwork and they aren't even sure if they ever sent the lens.
 
back alley said:
i agree, there is no NEED for lenses other than those designed for the g1 - i just think it will be a hoot to play with others though.

joe
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That's what I figure. I've seen some really cool results from a real neat leap in technology. Just because it's not a tool that would fit in my kit or work for my shooting doesn't mean it's not capable of great results.
I was more skeptical of the people buying the G1 as a platform for adapted M lenses.
 
back alley said:
i saw those shots also and can't say for sure what it is...but i have seen that effect in person right here in the frozen north. in winter if i take my hat off the steam just rises.

lord knows when my lens will show up, prodigital lost the paperwork and they aren't even sure if they ever sent the lens.
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Yes I'm in CT and know what you mean about the cold, but those really look like IS or processing effects to me. Of course I could be wrong, and the lens looks sharp (and optimized for close work) from the shots I see.
 
cmogi10 said:
That's what I figure. I've seen some really cool results from a real neat leap in technology. Just because it's not a tool that would fit in my kit or work for my shooting doesn't mean it's not capable of great results.
I was more skeptical of the people buying the G1 as a platform for adapted M lenses.
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I wonder why you're skeptical.

Do you doubt that the lenses will work on the G1? Or that you doubt they can be focused quickly enough? I am interested in seeing how that will work out too...
 
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