Pushing Provia 400F

kully

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Hallo,

I was wondering whether anyone has tried pushing 400F two (or even three) stops.

I have a roll that I bought for testing, but I've left it too late and need to use it before I'll get the film back from processing...

My fallback is Delta 3200, Neopan 1600 or depending how the roll in my camera goes HP5+ @ 1600, but it would be nice to have colour...

PS I tried some Konica Centuria 1600, which I've still got five rolls of, but it's nearly a year out of date.
 
Pushing slide film is generally a bad idea. The already narrow exposure latitude shrinks, grain increases, and contrast might get blown, I think.

Your one year old Konica Centuria will perform much better.

Clarence
 
I've heard of people pushing this film before. I'd think that slide film, by its nature, is not as forgiving of such measures as negative film.

If you want fast color, try Fuji NPZ800.
 
If you intend to scan the film, after some Level and Curve work in PS, Provia 400F at 3200 is acceptable. For projection, forget it because the film is too thin and it's just an awful projection!

Contrary to George, I'd take Provia 400F and push it rather than NPZ800. The grain from Provia 400F at iso800 is finer that of NPZ at iso500.

Provia 400F pushed to 3200:
 

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If the outcome is not critical, I say do it! Just make careful choices with regard to exposure, and expose as much as possible to protect the important highlights; let everything else fall where it will. If you're doing something that's either unreproducable (special event), or a paying job, I would stick with what you know.

The Konica 1600 is supposed to be a good film; I'd use that first if you want to shoot colour. Unless, of course, you've been storing it in an x-ray machine, on the microwave, or in an oven... ;)
 
Kris said:
If you intend to scan the film, after some Level and Curve work in PS, Provia 400F at 3200 is acceptable. For projection, forget it because the film is too thin and it's just an awful projection!

Contrary to George, I'd take Provia 400F and push it rather than NPZ800. The grain from Provia 400F at iso800 is finer that of NPZ at iso500.

Provia 400F pushed to 3200:


I just thought that maybe the NPZ would have better curves and color at 3200 than the PRovia.


But, really, i have never tried either.
 
The Centuria rolls are currently split between my sock drawer and the loft, I'm not sure which location has the worse conditions...

I shot a couple of rolls of Centuria a few weeks ago:

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The event is a Uni. Alumni reunion for the start of the World Cup, nothing super important, although it would be cool to get a few good shots for the wesite.
 
kully said:
Hallo,

I was wondering whether anyone has tried pushing 400F two (or even three) stops.

I have a roll that I bought for testing, but I've left it too late and need to use it before I'll get the film back from processing...

My fallback is Delta 3200, Neopan 1600 or depending how the roll in my camera goes HP5+ @ 1600, but it would be nice to have colour...

PS I tried some Konica Centuria 1600, which I've still got five rolls of, but it's nearly a year out of date.


Ideveloped a provia 100f pushed at 200 iso with bad result and strange dominant, with kodak e100g at 200 iso I obtainde great results, the problem with slides is that anyone can made different results if pushed.... so TRY TRY TRy and post results
 
as others have mentioned, pushing slide film in general is not recommended for it will push the shadow up and you will lose the blacks which often makes it for slides. if you have to push, try to stay with 1 stop. 2 stops is really at the edge of everything. but of course if that's what makes you take pictures, then you have no choice.
 
I used Fuji 1600 color print film in a museum recently, and was blown away by how sharp and grainless the prints came out. Well, they weren't grainless, and some of the darker prints were as grainy as expected. But the properly exposed prints were really good. I wouldn't hesitate to use it again in low light situations.
 
Andy Kochanowski, who posts occasionally on the photo.net Leica forum, recently put up some nice boxing shots that were taken w/Provia 400 pushed to 1600. Unfortunately, he's taken the folder down, but you can read some of the comments here:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00FBef&tag=

FWIW, I've done some of my own experimentation (w/admittedly mixed results) that you can see here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/furcafe/tags/fujiprovia400f1600/

I would worry more about color/lighting temperatures (that's where NPZ/Pro 800Z excel) than grain per se, though the Provia does convert to B&W nicely.

kully said:
Hallo,

I was wondering whether anyone has tried pushing 400F two (or even three) stops.

I have a roll that I bought for testing, but I've left it too late and need to use it before I'll get the film back from processing...

My fallback is Delta 3200, Neopan 1600 or depending how the roll in my camera goes HP5+ @ 1600, but it would be nice to have colour...

PS I tried some Konica Centuria 1600, which I've still got five rolls of, but it's nearly a year out of date.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone, I think after all of that I'm going to stick with B&W - I know what it does and, I suppose, colour is rather pass\351.

Now the question is Delta 3200, Neopan 1600 or HP5+ pushed to 1600. Time to use that search button :)
 
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