Puts on the Zeiss ikon

How do your politics influence your RF preference?"
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That's a tough one. I guess I'll stick with Cosina because they're made for the masses. :cool:
 
Frank Granovski said:
He's probably a smart guy but between his gobbledygook and his right wing Leica slant, no thanks. :cool:
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Damn! That's what my x-wife told the judge! :D
 
Frank Granovski said:
This ding-dong term is "Wussa" in German, :cool:
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And where did you here that? I should know this, given the time I spent in german speaking countries :)
 
'Er, my late parents spoke German? 'Er my mother's from Berlin? 'Er, My dad was form a Romanian region formally Austrian? :cool:

PS: 'er, I still have family in Germany? Even in Breman? (Yes, it's true.)
 
Frank Granovski said:
'Er, my late parents spoke German? 'Er my mother's from Berlin? 'Er, My dad was form a Romanian region formally Austrian? :cool:

PS: 'er, I still have family in Germany? Even in Breman? (Yes, it's true.)
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Frank,

I never heard this word ever before either, no clue where it is coming from, maybe Austria or Romania .

Bertram
 
The mental act of preparing for the next photo is set between the moment that the shutter is pressed and the film is wound on for the next exposure. The CRF is famous for its propensity to synchronise the compositional state of the scene and the mental state of the phtographer. The mechanical movements of the camera should not distract from this synchronisation. The "emptiness" of the transport does interfere with the stream of consciousness approach of the CRF.
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This stream of consciousness can only happen when you're shooting stoned.
 
"I have dwelled some time on this topic as it is one of the more important aspects to deal with when analising a mechanical camera. The mental act of preparing for the next photo is set between the moment that the shutter is pressed and the film is wound on for the next exposure. The CRF is famous for its propensity to synchronise the compositional state of the scene and the mental state of the phtographer. The mechanical movements of the camera should not distract from this synchronisation. The "emptiness" of the transport does interfere with the stream of consciousness approach of the CRF."

At last something worthwhile has come out of this thread; now I know why all of my pictures look like crap -- it's that "mechanical movements" and "synchronisation" thing. Either my cameras don't have it, or they do and I don't...:D
 
Oops. "Putka" in Ukrainian actually is the female XXXX. It must have been late when I posted this.
Frank,

I never heard this word ever before either, no clue where it is coming from, maybe Austria or Romania .

Bertram
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Well, maybe this impolite German slang word for XXXXX isn't used anymore in modern Germany; however, the Germans I know know this word. :D

The Zeiss Ikon forever!! :cool:
The Zeiss Ikon forever!! :cool:
The Zeiss Ikon forever!! :cool:
 
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ZI owners will be disappointed, unless someone comes out with a glowing review of their new acquisition.

Putts is just one man's opinion. And you have to remember that English is probably his second language, so some degree of interpretation is needed to devine what he is actually saying.

If your happy with the camera, who cares what the reviews say about that item.
 
sgy1962 said:
Putts is just one man's opinion. If your happy with the camera, who cares what the reviews say about that item.
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Stephen, I actually agree with you completely about his being just one opinion. I could care less whether he likes the camera & lenses. Everyone's entitled to like what they like.

My disappointment with his review is that I didn't learn anything from it. It was no different than any other of a number of user reviews. His Leica reviews are so much more informative. I would have liked him to take me inside the camera to explain things that I can't see on my own. I would also have liked him to evaluate build quality - for better or worse - & to explain his conclusions, maybe even post pictures of the inner workings of the camera. He is more than capable of doing an excellent job with that kind of in depth review. Perhaps my expectations were too high, but I expected much more from him than the superficial report that he posted.

Huck
 
I think that his comments on the winder being so light affecting your picture taking mindset is just about the most obsurd thing I have ever heard him utter. He damages his own crediblity with nonsense like that.
 
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Huck Finn said:
Stephen, I actually agree with you completely about his being just one opinion. I could care less whether he likes the camera & lenses. Everyone's entitled to like what they like.

My disappointment with his review is that I didn't learn anything from it. It was no different than any other of a number of user reviews. His Leica reviews are so much more informative. I would have liked him to take me inside the camera to explain things that I can't see on my own. I would also have liked him to evaluate build quality - for better or worse - & to explain his conclusions, maybe even post pictures of the inner workings of the camera. He is more than capable of doing an excellent job with that kind of in depth review. Perhaps my expectations were too high, but I expected much more from him than the superficial report that he posted.

Huck
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Good idea. Show the similarities and differences between the ZI and the Bessa.

R.J.
 
sgy1962 said:
Putts is just one man's opinion..
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That is true at the first sight. But that is not how presents himself. His pseudo-scientific "tests" pretend to be objective and that's the way he has made himself beeing a public instance of competence.

A reference point for all those whose opinion he confirmes and those who are naive enuff not to ask what for this show is organized. He is influencing a public opinion.
When a newspaper prints tendentious articles it is to be senn different from me saying my opinion somewhere in a bar.

So in fact it is NOT true that this stuff is just one man's opinion.

And THAT is what makes many people upset, NOT that he wasn't willing to write a glowing report about the Zeiss Ikon, NOT that he is a pompous dunnowhat as some say, NOT that his English is strange and EVEN NOT that he is a Leica fan !!

Tho this is all very simple it seems to be hard to understand. I've read so many pro-Puts or "anti- antiPuts" statements or some of that kind which pretend not to understand what the fuss is all about this man: Is this hypocrisy or naivety ?
Or do even Leica owners feel embarrassed enuff by his activities to feel the urge to belittle the significance of his biased output ?

bertram
 
i think you all give this man way too much power.

don't agree with him?
move on silently and don't let him have his impact.

mho
 
Too funny to ignore

Too funny to ignore

back alley said:
i think you all give this man way too much power.

don't agree with him?
move on silently and don't let him have his impact.
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I don't think his kind of nonsense will simply go away if Leica infidels like us just "move on silently."

Besides, it's only natural to laugh at smart-ass comics - especially in North America. :D

Though entirely unintentional, Erwin's babbles do have their merits and teach a good lesson: if you worship a brand hard enough and long enough, it will become an absurd fanaticism. :D

This could be a reason why I started to use an SMC Takumar and Jupiter 9 on my Japanese Contax last year. Heck, I even use a lowly Ultron made by Cosina with my Leica before that! ;)
 
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Mazurka said:
I don't think his kind of nonsense will simply go away if Leica infidels like us just "move on silently."

Besides, it's only natural to laugh at smart-ass comics - especially in North America. :D

Though entirely unintentional, Erwin's babbles do have their merits and teach a good lesson: if you worship a brand hard enough and long enough, it will become an absurd fanaticism. :D

This could be a reason why I started to use an SMC Takumar and Jupiter 9 on my Japanese Contax last year. Heck, I even use a lowly Ultron made by Cosina with my Leica before that! ;)
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