los
Established
i've read here and in other pages that it may be possible to quiet the shutter accutation on the gw670II cameras by somehow disconnecting the counter on the bottom. does anyone know for sure about this? my camera is being cleaned this week, and if this is possible i'll ask the tech to try it.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
why not ask the techie this one? I would.
pstevenin
Established
Please let us know, it is the only drawback of this otherwise fabulous camera.
Philippe
Philippe
I'd be interested in the answer too, as I plan to send off my GW670 for CLA soon. It makes a cheap tinny *plink* noise that I'd hoped could be muffled by either lubrication or applying a small felt bumper in some appropriate spot. 
My counter shows 595 so I've been hoping that it's just overdue for service, and it'll quieten down after. Too bad if the noise is necessary in the actuation of the counter...
My counter shows 595 so I've been hoping that it's just overdue for service, and it'll quieten down after. Too bad if the noise is necessary in the actuation of the counter...
Solinar
Analog Preferred
I agree. It sure would be nice if the noise from the counter mechanism could be eliminated.
los
Established
i asked the techie and he said he didn't know for sure. he thinks the noise is from the mechanism that charges the shutter, resetting. not from the counter. i've had no problems with the camera, so i'm not keen on asking him to fiddle around with it looking for a solution.
JohnM
Well-known
I would be surprised if that noise is entirely related to the counter, nor would a normal CLA help much - I've had new ones and they make the same plinky noise as ones that are due for a CLA.
I think it is just something to be endured with these otherwise great cameras.
I think it is just something to be endured with these otherwise great cameras.
Huh, sorry to hear that info, John... Possibly coincidentally, Fuji put what I'm convinced is a deliberate noise-maker in the shutter release of the GS645S. The key evidence is that after you set the self-timer, the noise occurs when the timer is tripped, and not when the shutter eventually clicks softly. I don't get that, nor why Fuji would want a tinny plink noise with their GW.... They all say "Professional" on them too, but the sounds aren't.
los
Established
i just got the gw670II back from having the finder cleaned and the rangefinder adjusted. i stated in another thread that the rangefinder patch was not as contrasty and snappy with focus as my canon rangefinder. well it is now.
i've seen several of these cameras, and they have a tendancy to develop a blue-ish haze in the finder that can make focusing difficult. if yours looks this way, i encourage you to have it cleaned, and the rangefinder adjusted. it cost me $95 here in LA. the finder is a delight to look through now.
i've seen several of these cameras, and they have a tendancy to develop a blue-ish haze in the finder that can make focusing difficult. if yours looks this way, i encourage you to have it cleaned, and the rangefinder adjusted. it cost me $95 here in LA. the finder is a delight to look through now.
Good to hear, los... As soon as I find an appropriate box, mine is going in for CLA. My 220 test roll came back with very uneven spacing, some quite wide, and three instances where the frame gap was about 1mm. There were differences in the feel of the second stroke of the wind...
The tech told me these cameras are known for somewhat uneven frame spacing, especially with "slippery" 220 film. I'll be glad if he can improve this any, and also increase the contrast in the rangefinder.
The tech told me these cameras are known for somewhat uneven frame spacing, especially with "slippery" 220 film. I'll be glad if he can improve this any, and also increase the contrast in the rangefinder.
los
Established
doug,
i think the uneven spacing in these cameras is normal. it may depend on how snug the roll is wound when it's loaded and how far you cock the film advance lever. i know that sometimes i have a tendancy to do shorter strokes on the lever if i'm in a hurry. the manual warns to avoid loose film on the spool as well. anyway, i don't think anything is wrong with your camera in this regard, it might be a waste of money to have a tech adjust or over haul it.
i think the uneven spacing in these cameras is normal. it may depend on how snug the roll is wound when it's loaded and how far you cock the film advance lever. i know that sometimes i have a tendancy to do shorter strokes on the lever if i'm in a hurry. the manual warns to avoid loose film on the spool as well. anyway, i don't think anything is wrong with your camera in this regard, it might be a waste of money to have a tech adjust or over haul it.
Yes, the roller may be the issue, as the tech suggested I give it a spin to make sure it's rotating freely. It does rotate pretty freely but stops from its own friction fairly soon. Seems ok. Tech agreed it might not need service even with the roll counter reading 595, and asked me how much I intended to use it. He also said the shutter is good for hundreds of thousands of clicks. I didn't ask about the tinny sound.
I do habitually put some drag on the fresh feed roll as I get the paper leader started winding on the takeup reel until the arrows are lined up. Good to make sure to get the roll started tightly to avoid binding later from a loose wrap or light leaks after unloading.
Thanks for your observations. If this is normal, I guess I can live with it, but it seemed unusual to me, having experience with two other Fuji's (645's), Bronica RF645's, and Pentax 6x7 and 67II. That 67II is particularly precise with very even but tight frame spacing to get 21 shots on 220. None of these other 120/220 rigs have anywhere near the variation in frame spacing the GW670III shows. And I will run a roll of 120 to see if that feeds more evenly.
I do habitually put some drag on the fresh feed roll as I get the paper leader started winding on the takeup reel until the arrows are lined up. Good to make sure to get the roll started tightly to avoid binding later from a loose wrap or light leaks after unloading.
Thanks for your observations. If this is normal, I guess I can live with it, but it seemed unusual to me, having experience with two other Fuji's (645's), Bronica RF645's, and Pentax 6x7 and 67II. That 67II is particularly precise with very even but tight frame spacing to get 21 shots on 220. None of these other 120/220 rigs have anywhere near the variation in frame spacing the GW670III shows. And I will run a roll of 120 to see if that feeds more evenly.