Quite in topic: The Ugliest side of photgraphy - Dancing for Money

[ruben]

Israeli radio reports this morning, with attached condemnation, about UK newspaper publishing pic (pics ?) of the nude back body side of Germany's Chancellor Mrs Angela Merkel (!).

For the sake of clarity, let's state that ugly paparazzi photograpy is not new. Nor even post porno Net sites taking advantage of kids or women and animals.

But in my opinion the present case is even worse. The UK royal family has been long ago a target for paparazzis and that's not so ugly in my view as for non-UK viewers it is quite questionable whether the Brittish Monarquie should be held as a true symbol of English people wisdom.

Not new as well is the frequent paparazzi persecution of Holywood stars, and that is not the worse of all too.

But another totally different thing is targeting a Prime Minister, which is an outrageous insult of the lowest level against an entire nation she symbolizes, and a woman as well. And not just targeting but apparently at the lowest possible human degradation.

And for further clarification, one thing is a mistaken photographer pic. Another totally different one is a daily national newspaper publishing that rubbish.

According to Israeli radio reports, by now Germans are not taking much offense, but as a guy with a camera I do, and perhaps others here may join.

Sadly,
Ruben

 

[Socke]

There are differences in photojournalism between germany and great britain. Germanies tabloid papers wouldn't publish our chancelors bottom, but they would Penelope Cruz' or Paris Hiltons etc.pp. 🙂

 

[RML]

I have no special interest in paparazzi photos and such but I find it comprehensible that as soon as a woman is in a high place she immediately becomes a target for the paparazzi. Seems like exploitation of women to me. I've never seen any (semi-)nude shots of one very fat Kansler I know. So, why the (semi-)nude shots when a woman takes that (or similar) position?

 

[Rich Silfver]

Is she hot?

 

[Socke]

RML, they had a picture of Kohl in swiming trunks in german papers once.

 

[ruben]

Is she hot?

Wrong Richie, wrong

 

[Bertram2]

According to Israeli radio reports, by now Germans are not taking much offense, but as a guy with a camera I do, and perhaps others here may join.
Ruben

Tasteless, yes, but not more than another proof of the increasing infantilism and idiocy in our western societies. The greed for money and "fun" begins to eat the
very last rests of our cultural framework.

First of all the photog should be burned at the stake publicly because this photo is a really bad attack of a man's libido. 😱 😱 Hope I never ever will stumble over it anywhere in the web, a nightmare ! 🙁

bertram

 

[Andrew Sowerby]

Is she hot?

^That made me laugh^

 

[RML]

RML, they had a picture of Kohl in swiming trunks in german papers once.

Really? Brrrrr! Stuff of nightmares! 🙂

 

[Pherdinand]

Ruben, I agree w everything you write, except i don't understand this:
"and a woman as well"
. Why is it different (worse) than publishing the same of a man?
I also don't see why RML mentions womens' exploitation in this case.

 

[ruben]

Ruben, I agree w everything you write, except i don't understand this:
"and a woman as well"
. Why is it different (worse) than publishing the same of a man?
I also don't see why RML mentions womens' exploitation in this case.

Because of the already millenarium explotation, discrimination, abuse of women.
Then, not only embarazing a nation representative but adding the woman factor as well ("is she hot?") this accounts for the worst possible low level.

The UK newspaper publishing of it is in fact a brutal appeal to promote at the same time the most bestial instincts within us, the racial one and the sexist one. This last one is the stereotype view of women, either as mothers or whores only, on the service of man, master of the universe and second only to god.

If you want the most extreme examples of today, some seven hundred thousand women are being slave traded per year, not only in Africa but worldwide, including many East European as well.

In north Mexico, women are raped and afterwards murdered and secretly buried with sexual organs amputated, by the dozens.

Haven't you heard about the sex tours to Thailand ?

Israel by proportion is one of the worst focus of overseas kidnapping and import of woman for prostitution, from FSU via the Russian maffia.

And in Europe of today we have this UK newspaper on one side, and the microphone is waiting for the other side to speak out.

Cheers,
Ruben

 

[RML]

Csab', the exploitation of women comes in because 9 out of 10 times it's women celebs who get targetted by these paparazzi. Who cares if GW Bush is swimming topless in his pool? No-one. But every man and his frickin' dog would be very much interested in seeing his daughter topless in the pool. Just the fact that a magazine wouldn't even care to publish the former but would pay premium bonusses for the latter photo, points IMO to exploitation of women. .Read for GW Bush any male celeb; read for his daughter any female celeb and the story would still read the same.

 

[Jocko]

For the benefit of non-British members I'd like to point out that the paper in question - the Sun - is effectively a zenophobic soft-porn comic and celebrity scandal sheet, traditionally the nastiest of all British tabloids (although arguably not the most debased - that "honour" belongs to the so-called "Daily Sport"). It is the chosen organ of exactly those moronic and infantile forces Bertram identifies.

It pursues a ridiculously anti-German ( and anti European) course simply because it can no longer abuse Blacks or Homosexuals and - given its falling circulation - seeks bursts of publicity by puerile stunts.

Don't worry - it's just rubbish - and the apparent mysogyny merely hides the fact that a lot of British men are simply Terrified of women 😀

cheers, Ian

 

[ch1]

There are differences in photojournalism between germany and great britain. Germanies tabloid papers wouldn't publish our chancelors bottom, but they would Penelope Cruz' or Paris Hiltons etc.pp. 🙂

Is this difference for political or aesthetic reasons? 😀

 

[Pherdinand]

You guys are of course right and the things you elaborate on, are terrible facts, but I still think, it is a bit artifficial to correlate the incident in case with womens'exploitation. It's bad enough as it is, no need to find extra aggravating(?) details.
I personally see alot of market for gossips and paparazzi products regarding male celebrities (just as someone mentioned it right on the first page of this thread about the other famus german politician!).

On the other hand, paparazzis are surviving not (only) due to the celebrities, but due to us, who pays for that stuff, read it, look at it, or discuss it in a forum. Every bad shit that has a market, will be produced and sold by someone, that's the situation. Same goes for Jerry Springer or Dr Phil type of stuff, for latin american soaps, for Airplane Catastrophes on discovery channel, for child pornography, printed or filmed, for hours long political debates and promises made right before the elections exceeding every reasonable financial limit that could be supported by a country (talking about the italian and hungarian elections of nowadays).

 

[doubs43]

Is she hot?

I think you'll find that Frau Blucher in "Young Frankenstein" was a "hottie" compared to the good Chancellor. 😀

 

[jan normandale]

Remember the hot topic one US President back.... Bill Clinton... Gimme a break, papers will always publish trash. It increases sales and the bottom line is 'king'.

On Bill, every time he ran in shorts or a track suit guess which sex that was aimed at?

Media... ? Doh!

 

[JohnL]

Traditional riddle: "What is the hottest part of the SUN?"
Answer: page 3.

 

[vincentbenoit]

Tasteless, yes, but not more than another proof of the increasing infantilism and idiocy in our western societies.

Sad but true.

Vincent