R2a and R3a Info...

No need to stop you Peter... I also want one badly ! 😀

Now the question is... Single or Multi coated ? Gandy says the reason for a SC lens is to give a somewhat more 'classic' look to images... Also, I read there 'initially the lens will be only in black & M mount'. Does that mean there will be other color/mount options in a future ?

Personally I wouldn't mind at all being able to fit that lens on my Canon 7 as well, lol !

Btw, keeping the same price as for a R2 is a very interesting movement. Now, people who were expecting something different will go for the still available mechanical R2's, while people jumping on the new Bessas will probably find the price great. Brilliant 🙂
 
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I am thinking that the 40mm F1.4 would be perfect for an M3. The whole frame should just about cover the 40mm field of view. Then people will stop making fun of the Summaron with Eyes.
 
CV's new 40mm F/1.4

CV's new 40mm F/1.4

The Japanese on the CV site here in Japan talks about using a design philosophy from the '50s and '60s, where the character of the image was expected to be different at full aperture and you stopped it down to get progressively sharper definition. Sounds like it really might be designed for a pre-aspherical look with smooth, soft "bokeh." The Japanese deliberately contrasts this "look" with the "sharp and contrasty from full aperture" look of modern lens design. The latter is what I have in my Classic 35/2.5. I must say I wouldn't mind a really smooth 40/1.4! If it offers anything like the wonderful image quality of my 50/3.5 Heliar, then I'm definitely going to want it...
 
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Re: CV's new 40mm F/1.4

Roger said:
The Japanese on the CV site here in Japan talks about using a design philosophy from the '50s and '60s, where the character of the image was expected to be different at full aperture and you stopped it down to get progressively sharper definition. Sounds like it really might be designed for a pre-aspherical look with smooth, soft "bokeh." The Japanese deliberately contrasts this "look" with the "sharp and contrasty from full aperture" look of modern lens design. The latter is what I have in my Classic 35/2.5. I must say I wouldn't mind a really smooth 40/1.4! If it offers anything like the wonderful image quality of my 50/3.5 Heliar, then I'm definitely going to want it...
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Thanks for the translation Roger 😀

Now, according to that, only 500 SC lenses will be made, how about a RFF special bulk order ? :angel:
 
I was a little disappointed yesterday, but I have to admit that I think we have to give a hand to Cosina for offering a seemingly better camera for the same price as the R2. With manual backup at all shutter speeds, AE, and perhaps an improved meter... Bravo!

The price makes everything, perhaps the cameras aren't ground breaking with a short baselength rangefinder, but they remain a very good quality machine which do there job exceedingly well.

Edit: I hate reading things on the screen. I printed the Cameraquest page, and there is no confirmation about he manual backup of the shutter, should the batteries go. It is obvious though that he only has the standard info provided to him from Cosina, so we will have to wait a week or so to hopefully get more info. Still nice though.
 
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For the R3a I estimate that the full viewfinder area corresponds roughly to the field of view of a 33m lens. This is based on measurements of the cameraquest viewfinder images, which may not be accurate.
John
 
On Steve's site it says that "metered manual exposure is also possible" under the 'What is Aperture Priority?' heading. I would assume that means if the battery fails you can still use the camera, just no metering and probably wouldn't function in 'A' mode as well; or am I reading that wrong?
 
Yay, I don't want any of those... except maybe the meter. 😀

Seems like there are more LEDs for the meter now btw.
 
I'm sure Joe doesn't approve of this quote from Mr "Gandy: "Classic Leica mount Canon fans enjoyed a 1:1 finder with the Canon P with parallax corrected framelines, but with a mediocre flare prone finder."

i did read that rich and all i can say is that gandy has not looked through my p's finder. no flare, very bright and 1:1 finder 40 some years before this one.

joe
 
As a side note, i have here a cheapo minolta x300 SLR (that i bought for 15 eur with MD 50/1.7 lens incl batteries, clean and working -couldn't pass a deal like this!) and i was greatly surprised when looking through the VF and noticing the 1.00x magnification with the 50mm lens!
 
I wouldn't wanna look through your p either, rich, especially not 40 year old p. Now, if that had been a single malt or a nice Remy Martin cognac.... 🙂
 
Laika, the outer frame edge on the R2 approximate a 28mm angle of view, so I assume that it is the same on the R3A. I couldn't see a difference between the 40mm & 35mm framelines in the pictures. I wonder if there is any difference - other than the framelines being relabelled. On the R2, the framelines provide 87% coverage, 87% of the 35mm framelines would be . . . Voila! 40mm.
 
The new Bessa are good looking cameras, AE means quiet shutter and that 40mm is sooooo small looking, very nice. Anyone put their money down to hold one yet?

Todd
 
I'm interested to hear how quiet these new R3/R2A's are compared to the "old" R and R2.
 
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Anyone put their money down to hold one yet?

Todd
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Yes, I put a deposit on the R3a. Now I'll have to wait till just before christmas before I get my hands on it. I'll just warp it up, give it to my wife, and tell her to give it to me on Christmas morning 🙂

Contemplated the 40/1.4, but I think I'll wait to see how the performance is before deciding.
 
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Laika, the outer frame edge on the R2 approximate a 28mm angle of view, so I assume that it is the same on the R3A. I couldn't see a difference between the 40mm & 35mm framelines in the pictures. I wonder if there is any difference - other than the framelines being relabelled. On the R2, the framelines provide 87% coverage, 87% of the 35mm framelines would be . . . Voila! 40mm.
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I'm sure I'm wrong in this comment. I didn't take into account the higher magnification of the R3A. In fact, that's probably why they went to 40mm framelines instead of 35mm. Gandy sys that he thinks that the outer frame edge approximated 35mm, so I'll take him at his word.
 
sfaust - I'm most probably gonna join you in the deposit list. From what I've read and seen so far, the R3A is a no-brainer. Will add a 50/2.5 before some information is at hand on the characteristics of the 40/1.4. Cheers.
 
Contemplated the 40/1.4, but I think I'll wait to see how the performance is before deciding.

Me too. I'm really interested in it but I would want to use it at f1.4. So I'm going to wait for the reports.

What I don't get is this "Classic" and "S.C." designation. What is the difference between the "imagery of single coated lenses to multi-coated lenses" as Gandy puts it? I thought coating had to do with light transmission and glare reflectance rather than imagery. Maybe the single coat has less contrast?
 
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