wolves3012
Veteran
How about this for a rare "FED" then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fed-Camera-Le...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130046566191
Like all FSUs it is, naturally a "Leica Copy"! Why do people insist on this stupid term!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fed-Camera-Le...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130046566191
Like all FSUs it is, naturally a "Leica Copy"! Why do people insist on this stupid term!
Screwy
All the gear no idea
I have to admit it's a source of constant amusement for me
If people would just use E*bays search function they would find umpteen "RARE" FEDs or even another Zorki S
and as for Leica copy , Everyone knows Leica,s go for big money so maybe if your camera is a "Leica copy" some will rub off on yours
Paul
Paul
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I like seeing 8 versions of the same camera on a single page...6 marked as 'rare.'
gb hill
Veteran
I guess i'm missing something. Where does the ad say it's rare? I could'nt find it. But it looks more like my zorki 2c with those 4 front screws than any fed i've seen. Maybe thats what makes it rare?
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
"Leica copy" I think basically refers to the shutter mechanism. Camera bodies [especially older ones] are mostly a light tight box to hold the film and shutter. While the outer trappings of "Leica copies" may vary widely, the insides are at least somewhat similar.
The auction item you linked to... geez, I love guys like that. Absolutely no info. As if, "Well, I'm sure this great photo says it all. They'll know what it is." If they don't want to spend a few minutes to write down some info, I move on to another seller.
The auction item you linked to... geez, I love guys like that. Absolutely no info. As if, "Well, I'm sure this great photo says it all. They'll know what it is." If they don't want to spend a few minutes to write down some info, I move on to another seller.
ZorkiKat
ЗоркийК&
A FED which looks like a Zorki-S is a rare bird indeed! 
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
yes.. it is the rare Fed , a real find , as only a few were made to look like a Zorki.
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
"Rare" will probably describe the amount of real interest the lazy guy will generate from his meager ad. "Please contact me if you have any questions ..." Right.
gb hill
Veteran
OOOH NOOO!!! What have I started now!
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Seems to work: 76 EUR = 98 USD for a brass + snakeskin "Leica copy"Screwy said:and as for Leica copy , Everyone knows Leica,s go for big money so maybe if your camera is a "Leica copy" some will rub off on yours![]()
Philipp
Screwy
All the gear no idea
rxmd said:
Hmmm your average Zorki 1 in decent condition goes for $50 = 39 EUR so your right , But I wonder did it actually produce a financial return considering the man hours that have gone into producing it ?
Paul
Adam-T
Event Photographer
Maybe they Really Meant "Zorki Copy" and got Zorki and Leica mixed up ---- as we all do ;-)
S
Stanton
Guest
My re-acquaintance with this hobby came when I purchased a Zorki 2 in an antique shop in Poland. I knew it wasn't a Leica, but it certainly resembled what I remembered as a kid about 40 years before. It took me about a month of searching on the web to figure out what it was. Two weeks ago I walked into a major camera shop in Los Angeles (name omitted to protect the guilty), and the salesmen (yes, more than one) looked at my Kiev 2a and wanted to know if it was a Leica. They had never heard of a Kiev, or, a pre or post war Contax. I had to explain it to them.
I guess what I am saying is that we have knowledge that many others do not, including, obviously some who sell cameras for a living. I can't forgive appending "rare" to these cameras, but I can sympathize with a mistake of FED for Zorki. The sad thing is that a less knowledgeable buyer will get the wrong thing.
Dave
I guess what I am saying is that we have knowledge that many others do not, including, obviously some who sell cameras for a living. I can't forgive appending "rare" to these cameras, but I can sympathize with a mistake of FED for Zorki. The sad thing is that a less knowledgeable buyer will get the wrong thing.
Dave
Adam-T
Event Photographer
To be honest, a great number of people think ALL old cameras are rare and valuable, you`d be amazed at the number who think that a basic mass produced Box camera is a rare item of value and anything which collapses must be very rare and worth a fortune regardless of maker..
You can imagine how a Zorki 1 /2 or FED 1/2 must seem to many A:- it looks like a leica B:- was made before 1980 and C:- isn`t an SLR (even the uninformed will have an idea of the difference between a Zenit and a nikon F2 even if they think the F301 is the same as an F3) ..
What amazed me was that the Guy listed it as a FED and it hasn`t got FED written on it - where did he get THAT from? , I`m quite amazed that someone clueless enough to get them mixed up has even heard of FED !.
To those of us gaining interest rangefinders and FSUs after decades of Japanese SLRs, Names like FED and Zorki bring back memories of probably ONE camera in the lineup - for me FED meant the FED-5, a camera I avoided - Zorki was the 4K, a camera I liked and almost bought and likely may have if I`d not found a used battered Spotmatic at the right price (I couldn`t afford a new Zenit-E so getting a **REAL PENTAX** for less cash was a biggie for me) ..
Maybe the last camera guy who did the listing had seen which looked like a Leica II but wasn`t one was a FED and as the camera`s writing is in Cyrillic, he automatically assumed it WAS a FED ?
You can imagine how a Zorki 1 /2 or FED 1/2 must seem to many A:- it looks like a leica B:- was made before 1980 and C:- isn`t an SLR (even the uninformed will have an idea of the difference between a Zenit and a nikon F2 even if they think the F301 is the same as an F3) ..
What amazed me was that the Guy listed it as a FED and it hasn`t got FED written on it - where did he get THAT from? , I`m quite amazed that someone clueless enough to get them mixed up has even heard of FED !.
To those of us gaining interest rangefinders and FSUs after decades of Japanese SLRs, Names like FED and Zorki bring back memories of probably ONE camera in the lineup - for me FED meant the FED-5, a camera I avoided - Zorki was the 4K, a camera I liked and almost bought and likely may have if I`d not found a used battered Spotmatic at the right price (I couldn`t afford a new Zenit-E so getting a **REAL PENTAX** for less cash was a biggie for me) ..
Maybe the last camera guy who did the listing had seen which looked like a Leica II but wasn`t one was a FED and as the camera`s writing is in Cyrillic, he automatically assumed it WAS a FED ?
wolves3012
Veteran
Agreed, I know we have knowledge, through our interest, that others don't. Even so, the fact that it has "Zorkuii" (in cyrillic, admittedly) plastered across the top and "FED" appears nowhere should not tend to suggest it's a FED, even to the ignorant...Stanton said:I guess what I am saying is that we have knowledge that many others do not, including, obviously some who sell cameras for a living. I can't forgive appending "rare" to these cameras, but I can sympathize with a mistake of FED for Zorki. The sad thing is that a less knowledgeable buyer will get the wrong thing.
Dave
If you're selling something you don't know about I'd have thought that a few minutes research would repay the effort. Additionally, I'd be checking the condition (as an honest person) as far as I could. That way I could say the condition was poor/fair/excellent etc and hence realise the best price. For a camera, if the user says it's all working, recently serviced or whatever, wouldn't you pay more than if they just say "I know nothing about it"? The latter involves a heavy gamble on acquiring junk and deters people.
wolves3012
Veteran
Only 8? A recent search on the Bay showed up 19 Zorki 4/4k cameras, several of which were "rare"! Most were "Leica copy" types too!dazedgonebye said:I like seeing 8 versions of the same camera on a single page...6 marked as 'rare.'
wolves3012
Veteran
It doesn't say it's rare - that was my sarcasmgb hill said:I guess i'm missing something. Where does the ad say it's rare? I could'nt find it. But it looks more like my zorki 2c with those 4 front screws than any fed i've seen. Maybe thats what makes it rare?![]()
gb hill
Veteran
I'm always the last to get it!:bang: 
ZorkiKat
ЗоркийК&
wolves3012 said:Agreed, I the fact that it has "Zorkuii" (in cyrillic, admittedly) plastered across the top and "FED" appears nowhere should not tend to suggest it's a FED, even to the ignorant...
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Years back, a friend told me that a Russian rangefinder camera resided in his boss's closet. He said it was a "Bojokuu"-
Jay
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