Real shutter speed dial?

[Buzz40]

Quick question, please.
Do any of the micro 4/3 bodies have a (real) dedicated shutter speed dial?
Thanks in advance for your answers.

 

[mh2000]

well, I don't know what you mean by "real," but there are real physical multifunction dials that get dedicated to shutter speed in shutter priority mode... which, I think is "real." If you mean "real" in the sense that there is an individual shutter speed dial that does nothing else, ever, I don't think so.

 

[mugent]

I think the lack of 'proper' controls are what puts me off digital cameras, I always feel like I'm using a computer or a smart phone with these things, the Leica X1/X2 is appealing for that reason.

 

[GaryLH]

I think the lack of 'proper' controls are what puts me off digital cameras, I always feel like I'm using a computer or a smart phone with these things, the Leica X1/X2 is appealing for that reason.

Fuji x100, x100s, xpro-1, and xe-1 all have proper shutter speed dial as well as aperture ring on all the fixed focal length lenses so far plus a dedicated exposure index dial.

Otherwise most other cameras except Leica uses the normal mode dial in conjunction w/ a secondary dial for this purpose.

Gary

 

[GaryLH]

To the op. I am not aware of any of te m43 camera bodies using a dedicated shutter speed dial like the Fuji or Leica cameras.

Gary

 

[thegman]

No m/43 cameras have dedicated shutter dials the way we're used to from most film cameras. I expect that will change, as it does seem to be the fashion now to use 'retro' controls, and to market towards enthusiasts rather than buyers just after a simple camera.

I'd expect to see an inexplicably expensive, retro looking m/43 camera come out at some point.

 

[mh2000]

Well, for the last 25 years or so, most film cameras also made use of multi-function dials.

I think what you should really be asking is, "are any m43 layed out like a primitive all manual camera?"

I guess I bought a Canon EOS 650 when it first came out in the 80's and thought of it as a "real camera," even though it used an ergomically brilliant multi-function dial.

I have enjoyed shooting many basic quality all manual cameras from rangefinders to mechanical SLRs, but really, with good ergonomics, a more sophisticated camera can still be a joy to use. The mechanical feel of the Oly E-Px series of cameras feels very "real" to me, the lower end ones with more screan menu searching less so. Don't know what you're looking for, but maybe you should try to handle an Olympus E-P3 or E-P5 and see what you think. I'm still shooting an E-P1 and shoot it just like I would most film cameras -- aperture priority mode, thumb wheel is dedicated to aperture setting, add EV correction when needed. No going through menus, nothing. Physical wheels and buttons.

Good luck deciding what you want!

 

[Ken Ford]

I could get very interested in a m4/3 body configured like the Fuji X-E1 - I've adapted to non-traditional controls, but still feel the most at home with a shutter speed dial on the top deck and an aperture ring concentric to the lens mount.

 

[zuiko85]

Us primitive's loves our single function dials and ring's. An while their at it how about a nicely damped manual focus and a real, honest focusing scale and DOF marks on the lens. It is getting so, that from the side, you can't tell a lens from a section of ABS plumbing pipe.

 

[mh2000]

Well, last photo outing with my E-P1 I shot my C/V Color-Skopar 50 exclusively. Beautifully machined peice of work! Smmooothhhh focusing, my adapter is accurate enough for scale focusing when stopped down and a real aperture ring!

And the real metal knurled thumb wheel on the Oly changed the shutter speed!



Granted, I still like taking my Leica IIIf or Retina IIa out for a spin... Sunny-16 baby!!!

Us primitive's loves our single function dials and ring's. An while their at it how about a nicely damped manual focus and a real, honest focusing scale and DOF marks on the lens. It is getting so, that from the side, you can't tell a lens from a section of ABS plumbing pipe.

 

[zuiko85]

Yeah, I use manual lenses on my E-410 but accurate focusing is hit and miss. I'm actually thinking of going back in time and buying an E-1 and FS-2 matte grid screen. I figure a 5mp in focus picture beats a 10mp out of focus picture.

 

[Godfrey]

Yeah, I use manual lenses on my E-410 but accurate focusing is hit and miss. I'm actually thinking of going back in time and buying an E-1 and FS-2 matte grid screen. I figure a 5mp in focus picture beats a 10mp out of focus picture.

You can also get a Katz Eye screen with split image focus aid for the E-1. I haven't found it necessary, but it's easy to swap them.

I find the E-1's two programmable function control dials at least as ergonomic and easy to use as my M9's dedicated shutter speed and aperture ring controls. I wish Olympus would make a Micro-FourThirds version of the E-1. A pro grade camera which is ultimately very very simple in features and use.

G

 

[mh2000]

manual focusing on an LCD with 10X mag is about as good as it's ever been for me. Never loved rangefinders for focusing that much, hate split image focusing screens, probably the best i ever had was the center dot micro prism screen that I put in my Canon EOS 3... not saying that I wasn't happy enough shooting rangefinders, my OM-1 etc. etc., but prefer the accuracy I get with my m43 (of course, composing and focusing on a tripod helps).

 

[traveler_101]

manual focusing on an LCD with 10X mag is about as good as it's ever been for me. Never loved rangefinders for focusing that much, hate split image focusing screens, probably the best i ever had was the center dot micro prism screen that I put in my Canon EOS 3... not saying that I wasn't happy enough shooting rangefinders, my OM-1 etc. etc., but prefer the accuracy I get with my m43 (of course, composing and focusing on a tripod helps).

To each his own I suppose. I have an E-P1 along with rangefinder film cameras. I really dislike manual focusing on the E-P1's LCD screen. It can be done, yes, but it can also be difficult to see the screen and awkward to carry out. I use an OM 50mm on the E-P1 at times for portraits inside the house, but have pretty well given up focusing manual lenses outside. I don't use a tripod: that might make for a different experience.

 

[Buzz40]

Well, um, thanks gang. Some interesting responses to a simple question. ;-)

I can't get past feeling the need to defend myself and my attraction to "primitive" controls and cameras. So, I'll just leave this as is.

And, sincere thanks again to those of you who answered my question.

 

[mh2000]

Yeah, I guess I've been so tripod-centric for the past couple years that it has heavily influenced my oppinion here. Last handheld set with adapted 50 was a little awkward, but on tripod, I love the ability to frame my shot, scoot the focus point around and perform critical focus... kind of like using LF and loupe -- only the image is right side up!



For fast handheld stuff, I greatly prefer AF.

To each his own I suppose. I have an E-P1 along with rangefinder film cameras. I really dislike manual focusing on the E-P1's LCD screen. It can be done, yes, but it can also be difficult to see the screen and awkward to carry out. I use an OM 50mm on the E-P1 at times for portraits inside the house, but have pretty well given up focusing manual lenses outside. I don't use a tripod: that might make for a different experience.