Daydream28
Member
I am going to try to learn how to develop my own b/w film emphasis on try LOL may need to just get the film developed for a while.
^eagle^
Member
To develope a film,is not hard,but you just need some pactice.
You can find on youtube some tutorial about the developing process...
You can find on youtube some tutorial about the developing process...
Daydream28
Member
Thank you ^eagle^ I have been reading up, looks like it would save me a ton of money instead of going to the local walmart or cvs to get it developed....life in the country doesn't offer many places for 35mm development anymore. I have also looked into mailing my film but haven't chosen a place yet.
btgc
Veteran
If you stay within Program functions you won't learn much. These two cameras get you gradually into using f-stops and shutterspeed to achieve not only the right exposure, but an effect that will improve the image (mostly through depth of field).
Manual or at least Av/Tv camera with some indication of opposite component. And in my opinion, better to start with either fully working camera or start away with getting it repaired professionally. Electro's and many other [semi] [automated] cameras bought for cheap can teach one how to repair cameras and lead away from photography - not a worst thing which may happen but different skillset, basially, than is required to make photographs.
Konica C35 and other fully AE cameras can be second (read - supplementary) not main, unless your style is to rely fully on automation. Even manual cameras with meters need to be learned as meters get fooled by various light conditions, so no worries that it will be too fast, too easy.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Be careful, not all Konica C35's are range-finders. Some are auto focus and nice but not what you want.
Almost every maker produced a RF at one time and there are dozens out there but be warned that they'll all be second-hand and elderly. So you might get a nice looking one that needs repairing, meaning you might have problems finding someone to repair it.
The best, from the repairs point of view, are the old solid ones like Leica, FED and Zorki. Olympus also can be repaired but there are battery problems with them depending on the model. The XA is the last RF Olympus made and takes modern batteries you can still get. And there are several technicians prepared to repair and check them.
Some B&W films can be processed by labs and they put them through the machine with colour film but colour film development is not where you should be starting; it's too big a jump to start with.
The classic films like Ilford's FP4 Plus and Kentmere etc are best for home processing. Then you can cheat by scanning the negatives or do the job properly with an enlarger.
You have a lot of fun and games ahead f you...
Regards, David
Be careful, not all Konica C35's are range-finders. Some are auto focus and nice but not what you want.
Almost every maker produced a RF at one time and there are dozens out there but be warned that they'll all be second-hand and elderly. So you might get a nice looking one that needs repairing, meaning you might have problems finding someone to repair it.
The best, from the repairs point of view, are the old solid ones like Leica, FED and Zorki. Olympus also can be repaired but there are battery problems with them depending on the model. The XA is the last RF Olympus made and takes modern batteries you can still get. And there are several technicians prepared to repair and check them.
Some B&W films can be processed by labs and they put them through the machine with colour film but colour film development is not where you should be starting; it's too big a jump to start with.
The classic films like Ilford's FP4 Plus and Kentmere etc are best for home processing. Then you can cheat by scanning the negatives or do the job properly with an enlarger.
You have a lot of fun and games ahead f you...
Regards, David
jtm6
Well-known
I love the Oly xa cameras but would not suggest you seek one as a first RF experience.
It is not a camera that typifies the rangefinder experience.
I've also heard that the rangefinder patch is often faded in the XA due to age. This turned out to be true for the one I bought from feePay. It still works fine as a scale focus camera, but it is no longer a rangefinder.
jtm6
Well-known
I want to encourage home development, too. Black and white film development is VERY easy. It also ends up being less expensive than having someone else do it. You don't need a darkroom.
Also, since you mentioned walmart, be very careful if you have your film developed there. By default, they keep your negatives and only provide scans. At least that's what I've read here.
Also, since you mentioned walmart, be very careful if you have your film developed there. By default, they keep your negatives and only provide scans. At least that's what I've read here.
^eagle^
Member
Thank you ^eagle^ I have been reading up, looks like it would save me a ton of money instead of going to the local walmart or cvs to get it developed....life in the country doesn't offer many places for 35mm development anymore. I have also looked into mailing my film but haven't chosen a place yet.
Yes i know perfectly the life in the country,i live in the country to
ianstamatic
Well-known
yashica 35 or oly rc35 both are great and can be had for $50
Daydream28
Member
OK I got my Vito II in today put the film in got it ready and the darn thing wont take a picture to save my life
I purchased from someone who had 100% good feedback so it may be something I have done wrong. When I go to click the button take a picture nothing happens actually the button feels loose.
L Collins
Well-known
OK I got my Vito II in today put the film in got it ready and the darn thing wont take a picture to save my lifeI purchased from someone who had 100% good feedback so it may be something I have done wrong. When I go to click the button take a picture nothing happens actually the button feels loose.
Have you cocked the shutter by pushing the wind on lever until it locks? This will cock the shutter so the shutter will fire when you depress the shutter button. do that twice - I.e. cock and depress the shutter twice and then you are ready to take your first film shot. when ready, cock the shutter with the wind on lever, then aim and fire away! You are about to embark on a love affair!
Daydream28
Member
Yes. I cock the shutter but when I click to take a picture nothing happens.
Daydream28
Member
I will say that the camera is beautiful it has a color skopar 1:2 8/50 lens I hope I can get it to work, knowing me I just haven't gotten the hang of putting film in yet.
farlymac
PF McFarland
You've got to make sure the film is actually feeding through the camera, and hasn't disengaged from the take-up spool. If so, then your shutter will not fire because the film rotates the sprocket wheel, which actually cocks the shutter.
Try the rewind to see if it has any tension on it, but don't give it a long crank or you'll pull the leader inside the canister, and will have to dig it back out to use the film. If there is good tension, then wind the take-up again, and see if the rewind turns at the same time. This will tell you if the film is actually going on to the take-up spool.
If that all works as it should, then it could be you have sticky blades on the shutter, or the gear train in the escapement is dirty. Which will mean a tear-down and cleaning. Don't try flushing the shutter in situ, as that will just cause more problems than it's worth.
PF
Try the rewind to see if it has any tension on it, but don't give it a long crank or you'll pull the leader inside the canister, and will have to dig it back out to use the film. If there is good tension, then wind the take-up again, and see if the rewind turns at the same time. This will tell you if the film is actually going on to the take-up spool.
If that all works as it should, then it could be you have sticky blades on the shutter, or the gear train in the escapement is dirty. Which will mean a tear-down and cleaning. Don't try flushing the shutter in situ, as that will just cause more problems than it's worth.
PF
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