Regarding the latest closed thread

How about a seperate forum where dictators, religion and politics, new and old can be discussed.
free 'n easy.
 
i met jorge at his first website on home theatre.
it was a great, friendly place and then it turned ugly.
i used to go to another hi fi wbsite that pretty friendly and soon everyone was arguing about everything.
i left it too.

one of the things we aimed for here at rff from the beginning was a feeling of inclusiveness and i think we have done well in that regard.

but as soon as politics and religion enter the scene it usually goes downhill from there.
as strongly as we may feel about leicas and zi's, it pales when compared with god and bush or whomever, left vs right etc.
as someone earlier said, these are highly charged and emotional issues and while real debate is wonderful these discussions usualy lead into trying to convince others they are wrong.

a no win situation afaic.

joe
 
Well Jenni you have Three dogs, a cat, two horses, four rabbits and a ferret, I have some 50 sheep, 5 horses, 3-7 cats and 4 dogs, it will give us time to go take care of them.....
 
I don't like Bush any more than you do Magnus, but the fact remains your posts had nothing to do with Pinochet, you were just using it for a platform to voice your opinion on an unrelated topic. If you want to discuss the US' involvment in Pinochet then go for it. At least it would be in line with the topic. If you want to make a thread discussing why Bush is the devil, have at it. I might even agree with you!
 
RdEoSg said:
I don't like Bush any more than you do Magnus, but the fact remains your posts had nothing to do with Pinochet, you were just using it for a platform to voice your opinion on an unrelated topic. If you want to discuss the US' involvment in Pinochet then go for it. At least it would be in line with the topic. If you want to make a thread discussing why Bush is the devil, have at it. I might even agree with you!
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There are, ... no I do see quite a couple of similarities....

And the last thread, my thread, was more of a pre-Christmas wish sort of thing.
 
Yes 50 sheep and a barn full of wool which I always intended to treat and sell on markets, but never got to it actually. But the sheep are nice I enjoy keeping them ....
 
Magnus said:
Not saying you should, but you can always skip the things you're not interested in. And "duking it out" is hardly a representative of expressing ones feelings and/or beliefs.
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That would depend on one's choice of words and "tone." Even the best intentioned beginings, and I do not believe most beginings are all that well intentioned, will quickly degrade to a nasty situation.

Democracy? Really? The living room of my house is not a democracy. If I allowed such a thing the little inmates would take over and it would quickly become an anarchy.
This is not a public street, it's a private residence, in which we are all guests.
 
back alley said:
but as soon as politics and religion enter the scene it usually goes downhill from there.
as strongly as we may feel about leicas and zi's, it pales when compared with god and bush or whomever, left vs right etc.
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Politics is a piece of cake compared to football!
 
Jan, didnt knew that.
In Portugal our "national" food is codfish. People say that we can do it in over 1000 diferent ways. And i do like codfish in at least 900 of those ways 🙂.
That said, i want to think that i'm a strong opponent of natural resources depletion, and if that means i must pass on codfish a few christmas until their population is acceptable, thats a small price to pay.
Its funny because sometime in christmas there is a TV ad that shows a turkey alive and kicking and the ad goes something like "in this christmas leave the turkey alone, have codfish"....

As a side note, we believe that the best codfish is from the cold waters in north europe, norway and finland. I wonder if their reserves are going down also... must check.

Thanks for the head's up.

jan normandale said:
Pedro.. I have to say as a Canadian, (and I'm not joking here, do an internet search) that codfish and the fishery is a very very highly charged issue in Canada's Maritime provinces as they watch the fishery deteriorate on Georges Bank and Grand Banks.

Just so you know.

I also understand the idea in your comment.
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They are off Iceland and in the North Sea. 🙁

Kim

pedro.m.reis said:
As a side note, we believe that the best codfish is from the cold waters in north europe, norway and finland. I wonder if their reserves are going down also... must check.
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pedro.m.reis said:
As a side note, we believe that the best codfish is from the cold waters in north europe, norway and finland. I wonder if their reserves are going down also... must check.
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Actually they can be found, deep fried in batter, in Marini's fish & chip shop about a mile from my house, hmmmm CHIPS...& MUSHY PEAS 😀 (Freedom Fries to those of you in the US)
 
dazedgonebye said:
If I am offended by someone's position on Leicas then I think it's my problem and I should move on.
If someone's political views are offensive to me, then I think perhaps they should move on to a political forum where the members have come looking for that sort of discussion.

I'm here to learn on matters related to photography. THAT learning is what suffers when the climate is charged with strongly held opinions...not related to photography.
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Steve, I agree. Photography is a medium for communication and personal expression; pretty much all you need to know about me is (hopefully) evident in my photos. I'd really prefer not to READ others' opinions about non-photo-related controversial topics, as that affects my perception of their photos and anything else they write. So, yeah, I mostly avoid the Off-Topic threads... and I did not see the one about Pinochet. 🙂
 
Dougg said:
Steve, I agree. Photography is a medium for communication and personal expression; pretty much all you need to know about me is (hopefully) evident in my photos. I'd really prefer not to READ others' opinions about non-photo-related controversial topics, as that affects my perception of their photos and anything else they write. So, yeah, I mostly avoid the Off-Topic threads... and I did not see the one about Pinochet. 🙂
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I may have to avoid OT forums in the end...though I wish I did not have to.
Reading strong political opinions does color how I perceive a member, no matter the topic they are posting on.
I briefly used the ignore option once and it drove me crazy because I know the person had something worthwhile to say but I did not want it served up with the "other stuff." :bang:
I just need to get my 'zen' on...or something.
 
Unfortunately everything’s political, consider one of the innocuous well-fed cat or dog photos on this site; someone from a less privileged parts of the world would get a different message about our priorities from those
 
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