Topdog1
Well-known
There have been many threads here on panoramic rangefinders: Xpan, Horizon, etc. Not to mention what one can do with digital stitching. And I just bought a Noblex. Can we add a Panoramic Forum to RFF?
regards,
Ira
regards,
Ira
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
The Xpan is the only one of these that's actually a rangefinder camera, isn't it?
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
There is an xpan/Fuji TX1 forum already. I don't know of any others that qualify as rangefinders...
back alley
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don't we have one already with the xpan section?
joe
joe
Topdog1
Well-known
No, they are all rangefinders, but some are fixed focus rangefinders because of the depth of field. The "low-end" Noblexes are fixed focus but the "high-end" ones are fousable. ("" used because at their nosebleed prices nothing is really low-end.)
/Ira
/Ira
Topdog1
Well-known
Gee, I missed that. How about adding "Noblex" to it. Well, there is also the Russian Horizon pano that is fixed focus, too, and who knows, more may come along in the future.back alley said:don't we have one already with the xpan section?
joe
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Topdog1
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Oh yes, there's also the old Widelux. Great book by Jeff Bridges (the movie star) showing his Widelux photos of movie stars and movie sets available here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576871770/104-7380605-7488757
Regards,
Ira
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576871770/104-7380605-7488757
Regards,
Ira
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Topdog1
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And there are 3 pages of rangefinder panoramic cameras listed by B&H starting here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=search&Q=&ci=972
Regards,
Ira
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=search&Q=&ci=972
Regards,
Ira
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
not to pick nits but those aren't rangefinders - just having a viewfinder doesn't make it an RF. Scale focus - fixed focus, and groundglass (direct view).
But I do agree that expanding the xpan forum to a more general panoramic forum makes sense, even if it is slightly, technically, off topic.
But I do agree that expanding the xpan forum to a more general panoramic forum makes sense, even if it is slightly, technically, off topic.
Topdog1
Well-known
Technically you are correct, but it doesn't seem to be that far off topic since they are functionally quite similar. Most panoramic cameras are probably zone focused anyway, regardless of their inherent capabilities. And certainly landscapes are set to infinity without focusing also.
/Ira
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Rich Silfver
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Topdog1 said:And there are 3 pages of rangefinder panoramic cameras listed by B&H starting here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=search&Q=&ci=972
Regards,
Ira
Nice cameras but they are not rangefinder cameras.
Seems like the XPan and TX1 forum should cover the RF-related discussions.
sjw617
Panoramist
Ira,
I have been shooting panoramics for over 10 years and have never seen a swing lens camera that can be focused. Not a Horison, Horisont, Noblex, Widelux or Industar FT2.
The Horseman, Fuji and Linhof panoramics are not rangefinders. They have viewfinders for composition not focusing. The only rangefinder panoramic camera is the Xpan / TX.
I have an FT2 and a Linhof 617.
Steve
I have been shooting panoramics for over 10 years and have never seen a swing lens camera that can be focused. Not a Horison, Horisont, Noblex, Widelux or Industar FT2.
The Horseman, Fuji and Linhof panoramics are not rangefinders. They have viewfinders for composition not focusing. The only rangefinder panoramic camera is the Xpan / TX.
I have an FT2 and a Linhof 617.
Steve
sjw617
Panoramist
While it would be nice to have a Panoramic section all the sections are camera specific. We do not have a street or portrait section do we?
Steve
Steve
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RML
Guest
The Bessa L isn't a rangefinder either and still allowed here on RFF. So are those early Leicas, Russian rf-less cameras, etc. So why not rf-less panoramic cameras like the Noblex and the Horizont?
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RML
Guest
Topdog1 said:No, they are all rangefinders, but some are fixed focus rangefinders because of the depth of field. The "low-end" Noblexes are fixed focus but the "high-end" ones are fousable. ("" used because at their nosebleed prices nothing is really low-end.)
I don't recall that ANY Noblex is focusable.
And thet are not rangefinders either.
But I think too that panoramic cameras deserve a place here on RFF. The BEssa L has a place, rf-less Leicas do, so why not the vf-only panoramics.
Avotius
Some guy
rogue_designer said:not to pick nits but those aren't rangefinders - just having a viewfinder doesn't make it an RF. Scale focus - fixed focus, and groundglass (direct view).
But I do agree that expanding the xpan forum to a more general panoramic forum makes sense, even if it is slightly, technically, off topic.
so how do all those point and shoots qualify? I think we need a pano forum
Topdog1
Well-known
sjw617 said:While it would be nice to have a Panoramic section all the sections are camera specific. We do not have a street or portrait section do we?
Steve
"MF Rangefinders" is not a camera specific category. We could rename "Xpan" to be "Panoramic rangefinders"; that would be parallel to "MF Rangefinders".
/Ira
lZr
L&M
sjw617
Panoramist
Ira, If the Xpan section is renamed Panoramic Rangefinders it would still be for Xpan / TX only, since there are no other Panoramic Rangefinder cameras. I have seen other threads complaining about non RF pictures in the gallery and this would be "adding " to that issue.
Talisker
Neil
There is a panoramic camera gallery at http://www.panorama-gallery.com/start.htm (which I will join when I get the Gaoersi working). Before I'm accused of trechery, I would point out that it links to Rangefinderfourm from its home page!
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