Retro 80s/400s white/black tiny dots

[Jonik]

Retro 400s 1:150 R09 + 1ml HC110 full stand 1 hr + presoak 6min @ 19 ˚C

total range of temperatures =19-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. "whipped" it to dry and then let it hang on a fairly dust-free environment.

Retro 80s 1:200 semi-stand 1 hr + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying (not right away-maybe after 30-45min ?) with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.

IR72 + Retro 80s 1+50 12min + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying right away with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.

Here we can also see that it's only happening on one side..

These dots are in most of the frames , in some it's more obvious, in some others.. it's less obvious.



All images are scanned using a Reflecta ProScan 7200 as Slides.

There is NO editing on them except for some adjustments in Levels to exaggerate this... thing... (especially in the 1st one)

! there are also whole chunks missing in some frames..
also happened (with less dots) using only HC 110, DIL E)
any opinions ?

P.S: I really don't always treat my films like that during the drying process. I was in a hurry.
P.S2: I treated a FOMA 200 the same way as the roll of the first image, same everything, and there were no dots

 

[Steve M.]

Crap in your camera? Sometimes a blow dryer will introduce dust if it has lint in it. I always give my films a "whip" to snap some of the water off, and my film dries perfectly clean w/o water marks. I was getting an occasional water mark w/o the whip because in Florida humidity it takes a long time for the film to dry, and water was pooling and just sitting there, even w/ it hung vertically. Are you running the shower for a bit before hanging the film in the bathroom? When we lived in New Mexico I had a HUGE dust problem, which totally went away in Florida. Big difference in humidity. Other than those suggestions, I'm not sure what's up. I also have gotten into the habit of using only distilled water, and using a coffee filter in a funnel in my developer gradient when I pour the developer in. That fixed an issue I was having w/ stuff on my negs.

Whole chunks missing from the emulsion??? Have no idea on that one.

 

[Jonik]

i've ruled the camera factor out because it's only these 2 films, nothing on delta 100, tx400, foma 200, APX 100 , tmy 100.

i know how the hair dryer makes everything worse but the roll of the 1st image was left to dry alone.

P.S: No i don't leave the shower to run and steam up the place but i will do so the next time i dev which is gonna be in couple of hours, i'll dev it , hang it and let it dry on it's own without touching it, at all with 20˚C spot on. Will post results asap

 

[Jonik]

Problem seemed to be in presoaking...... :bang:
it needs some extra care this one.
Following are with 21-21.5 ˚C /NO presoak/ fresh dev+fixer with deionized water / high humidity in the bathroom to dry flat and nice/ nothing to hurry the drying phase. Took it out of the reel, hanged it, scanned it (as slides using Vuescan)

IR72

Tip for the people thinking about /already using Retro 80s/400s

Never presoak, monitor the temperature..