Jonik
Member
Retro 400s 1:150 R09 + 1ml HC110 full stand 1 hr + presoak 6min @ 19 ˚C
total range of temperatures =19-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. "whipped" it to dry and then let it hang on a fairly dust-free environment.
Retro 80s 1:200 semi-stand 1 hr + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying (not right away-maybe after 30-45min ?) with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.
IR72 + Retro 80s 1+50 12min + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying right away with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.
Here we can also see that it's only happening on one side..
These dots are in most of the frames , in some it's more obvious, in some others.. it's less obvious.
All images are scanned using a Reflecta ProScan 7200 as Slides.
There is NO editing on them except for some adjustments in Levels to exaggerate this... thing... (especially in the 1st one)
! there are also whole chunks missing in some frames..
also happened (with less dots) using only HC 110, DIL E)
any opinions ?
P.S: I really don't always treat my films like that during the drying process. I was in a hurry.
P.S2: I treated a FOMA 200 the same way as the roll of the first image, same everything, and there were no dots
total range of temperatures =19-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. "whipped" it to dry and then let it hang on a fairly dust-free environment.

Retro 80s 1:200 semi-stand 1 hr + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying (not right away-maybe after 30-45min ?) with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.

IR72 + Retro 80s 1+50 12min + presoak 5min @ 20 ˚C
total range of temperatures 19.5-21 ˚C w/ fresh dev, fresh fixer. Deionized water for dev and photo-flo. wiped using wet_with_photo-flo fingers ONCE, gently. Finished drying right away with hair-drier set on COOL.
Not so dust-free environment but i cleaned most of the hair/lint and dust using a microfiber cloth and my breath, gently.
Here we can also see that it's only happening on one side..

These dots are in most of the frames , in some it's more obvious, in some others.. it's less obvious.
All images are scanned using a Reflecta ProScan 7200 as Slides.
There is NO editing on them except for some adjustments in Levels to exaggerate this... thing... (especially in the 1st one)
! there are also whole chunks missing in some frames..
also happened (with less dots) using only HC 110, DIL E)
any opinions ?
P.S: I really don't always treat my films like that during the drying process. I was in a hurry.
P.S2: I treated a FOMA 200 the same way as the roll of the first image, same everything, and there were no dots
Steve M.
Veteran
Crap in your camera? Sometimes a blow dryer will introduce dust if it has lint in it. I always give my films a "whip" to snap some of the water off, and my film dries perfectly clean w/o water marks. I was getting an occasional water mark w/o the whip because in Florida humidity it takes a long time for the film to dry, and water was pooling and just sitting there, even w/ it hung vertically. Are you running the shower for a bit before hanging the film in the bathroom? When we lived in New Mexico I had a HUGE dust problem, which totally went away in Florida. Big difference in humidity. Other than those suggestions, I'm not sure what's up. I also have gotten into the habit of using only distilled water, and using a coffee filter in a funnel in my developer gradient when I pour the developer in. That fixed an issue I was having w/ stuff on my negs.
Whole chunks missing from the emulsion??? Have no idea on that one.
Whole chunks missing from the emulsion??? Have no idea on that one.
Jonik
Member
i've ruled the camera factor out because it's only these 2 films, nothing on delta 100, tx400, foma 200, APX 100 , tmy 100.
i know how the hair dryer makes everything worse but the roll of the 1st image was left to dry alone.
P.S: No i don't leave the shower to run and steam up the place but i will do so the next time i dev which is gonna be in couple of hours, i'll dev it , hang it and let it dry on it's own without touching it, at all with 20˚C spot on. Will post results asap
i know how the hair dryer makes everything worse but the roll of the 1st image was left to dry alone.
P.S: No i don't leave the shower to run and steam up the place but i will do so the next time i dev which is gonna be in couple of hours, i'll dev it , hang it and let it dry on it's own without touching it, at all with 20˚C spot on. Will post results asap
Jonik
Member
Problem seemed to be in presoaking...... :bang:
it needs some extra care this one.
Following are with 21-21.5 ˚C /NO presoak/ fresh dev+fixer with deionized water / high humidity in the bathroom to dry flat and nice/ nothing to hurry the drying phase. Took it out of the reel, hanged it, scanned it (as slides using Vuescan)
IR72
Tip for the people thinking about /already using Retro 80s/400s
Never presoak, monitor the temperature..
it needs some extra care this one.
Following are with 21-21.5 ˚C /NO presoak/ fresh dev+fixer with deionized water / high humidity in the bathroom to dry flat and nice/ nothing to hurry the drying phase. Took it out of the reel, hanged it, scanned it (as slides using Vuescan)

IR72

Tip for the people thinking about /already using Retro 80s/400s
Never presoak, monitor the temperature..
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