kipkeston
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Hi. I bought a jupiter-12 and would like a RF camera that has 35mm framelines. Are there any FSU camera's like that? Or maybe another brand that accepts LTM mount? What would you put the J-12 on? I don't have any RF cameras but I heard this J-12 is a great lens.
vicmortelmans
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Funny way to get started with Rangefinders...
A RF camera with built-in 35 mm framelines will be quite expensive, I guess. You'll probably need some (early) Leica M model (with mount adapter) or some late Canon model (P probably?). I think that the late Leica models (including the CL) and the Bessa R4 will have problems with the protruding back element of this particular lens.
But my suggestion would be to start cheap, and get yourself a nice Leica II/III look-alike (Zorki/Fed or maybe an early Canon) and give it a 35mm auxiliary viewfinder.
And get yourself a 50mm lens as well.... Jupiter 3 or 8 will do fine.
Groeten,
Vic
A RF camera with built-in 35 mm framelines will be quite expensive, I guess. You'll probably need some (early) Leica M model (with mount adapter) or some late Canon model (P probably?). I think that the late Leica models (including the CL) and the Bessa R4 will have problems with the protruding back element of this particular lens.
But my suggestion would be to start cheap, and get yourself a nice Leica II/III look-alike (Zorki/Fed or maybe an early Canon) and give it a 35mm auxiliary viewfinder.
And get yourself a 50mm lens as well.... Jupiter 3 or 8 will do fine.
Groeten,
Vic
lubitel
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the cheapest solution would be to get a working russian camera, like
fed 3 or 5, (version 5 is probably the cheapest option)
or zorki 3,4,5 or 6 (i like the 6)
then you have to find a 35mm viewfinder. or make one yourself from a single-use camera.
fed 3 or 5, (version 5 is probably the cheapest option)
or zorki 3,4,5 or 6 (i like the 6)
then you have to find a 35mm viewfinder. or make one yourself from a single-use camera.
breathstealer
Established
My Canon 7 is a great RF with a set of built-in 35mm framelines, but it won't mount a J-12 without damaging the shutter.
I hear a Bessa R2 will mount a J-12 safely (with an M mount adapter, of course), but I'm not sure whether it has the right framelines.
I hear a Bessa R2 will mount a J-12 safely (with an M mount adapter, of course), but I'm not sure whether it has the right framelines.
kipkeston
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very interesting, thanks for the help.
rxmd
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The Leningrad has a finder which more or less covers 35mm.sitemistic said:
It works on the M5 if you file down the bottom adapter lug a little bit so that the adapter doesn't bring up the meter arm. Of course metering won't work, but the rest of the camera will. Just make a dedicated adapter for the J-12 and leave it on the lens.sitemistic said:
Philipp
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wlewisiii
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breathstealer said:
Depends on the Jupiter 12. I had a newer J-12 and it worked just fine on my Canon 7. Excellent results from it. The earliest J-12s had a somewhat larger rear element than later ( >1957 IIRC) and that one will hit the light baffles. None of them will hurt the shutter of a Canon 7 but the older lenses can be damaged by the baffles.
The same is true of the Canon P.
Just get a newer lens - late model black lenses are best in my experiance - and it will work just fine.
I can't say for the Bessas as I have a Canon 35/1.8 these days and never needed to try the J-12 on my R.
William
Kim Coxon
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The J12 tends to foul the second curtain on the Bessa's. Other alternative would be the early Canons like the 4 series.
Kim
Kim
rxmd
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Thank you. Good to have a positive report on this that comes from actual experience; normally there is just a lot of speculation.wlewisiii said:
Philipp
Santafecino
button man
If you truly need framelines, and a Voigtlander slip-on viewfinder won't do, your choice is a Leica M2. No meter, but you can get a Leicameter to clip on the shoe and couple with the shutter dial.
kipkeston
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wlewisiii said:
How can you tell if it's the older or newer one? Hmm, the element is quite large. I wouldn't be surprised if it were old. but it looks like it's in great shape.
fanshaw
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kipkeston said:
There are two J-12 constructions. One has a metal collar around the rear element and the other, newer, version has black paint on the glass instead of the collar.
juno_lau
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what auxiliary viewfinder do you guys use?
QUAsit
Established
Of Soviet rangefinder cameras Leningrad and Drug have parallax corrected frames. Leningrad has even 35mm frame.
But use of Leningrad or Drug is... BDSM is quite good word.
So either try Leica M2/M3/M4/M4-2/M4P with J-12 or Canon P series. Only late J-12s will fit Bessas, but no guarantee. By the way, J-12 won`t hit shutter curtain, J-12 will stuck in lug inside lens mount first...
Soviet auxiliary viewfinder for 35mm is quite bright with no parallax correction and was made in plastic or metal. $3-20 cost for this thing here in Russia.
But use of Leningrad or Drug is... BDSM is quite good word.
So either try Leica M2/M3/M4/M4-2/M4P with J-12 or Canon P series. Only late J-12s will fit Bessas, but no guarantee. By the way, J-12 won`t hit shutter curtain, J-12 will stuck in lug inside lens mount first...
Soviet auxiliary viewfinder for 35mm is quite bright with no parallax correction and was made in plastic or metal. $3-20 cost for this thing here in Russia.
rxmd
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Actually the Drug doesn't have parallax corrected framelines, but I find it quite agreeable to use. The winding is a bit awkward at first, but quite useable. The finder is the best of any Soviet RF camera I've seen, excluding possibly the Kiev-5.QUAsit said:
On the Bessa R at least it will hit the curtain (tried it on mine).QUAsit said:
Philipp
OldNick
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kipkeston said:
If I recall correctly, the first two digits of most J-12s indicate the year of manufacture.
I use my J-12 on a Leica IIIf with a CV external bright line finder. Works great. You can see the combination in my avatar.
Jim N.