jan normandale
Film is the other way
IIRC Brett/Joe Friday did most of the layout work and colour profiling. It was a huge and thankless job. Members took their issues with the printer out on Brett. It was not nice.
Whoever takes this on should be ready to expend the large amount of time on preparation and set up for the publisher. Also be prepared for a few rounds of 'texas cage match' with some members who aren't happy.
Still I was personally happy and would jump in again. I think RFF needs it. There are too many 'equipment fests' and not enough 'photographic fests' This might stir up the creativity of the rest of the RFF membership.
Whoever takes this on should be ready to expend the large amount of time on preparation and set up for the publisher. Also be prepared for a few rounds of 'texas cage match' with some members who aren't happy.
Still I was personally happy and would jump in again. I think RFF needs it. There are too many 'equipment fests' and not enough 'photographic fests' This might stir up the creativity of the rest of the RFF membership.
samdj1210
Samdj1210
A couple pages would be used for title page and table of contents, so the 40 page book would allow 38 photographers?
Sounds good to me, how do people feel about me starting a flickr group so we can pull ideas together, sort out photos etc?
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
IIRC Brett/Joe Friday did most of the layout work and colour profiling. It was a huge and thankless job. Members took their issues with the printer out on Brett. It was not nice.
Whoever takes this on should be ready to expend the large amount of time on preparation and set up for the publisher. Also be prepared for a few rounds of 'texas cage match' with some members who aren't happy.
Still I was personally happy and would jump in again. I think RFF needs it. There are too many 'equipment fests' and not enough 'photographic fests' This might stir up the creativity of the rest of the RFF membership.
I've dealt with stuff like that from clients, but fortunately, I caught the problems before they went to press. A lot of people have uncalibrated screens and when i get the image it is too dark or light or the color sucks. With commercial work (product photos, etc) it's easy for me to fix them and make them look good, but these will be more fine art type images so I'll have to keep in contact with people who send me something I think needs adjusted to ensure i don't 'fix' something that was intentional.
Tarzak
Well-known
Ahh, ok. I'd never heard the term before. People here where I live just call themselves graphic designers if they do the work you do. You don't see much specialization here because the market isn't big enough.
We design the structures too and there is a large amount of planning (position and content) that we do. Typically you'd find industrial designers, people who started architecture degrees, anyone with 3D design training working alongside the graphic design trained.
The US probably has the largest community of environmental graphic designers in the world.
Our website when you have spare time; dotdash.com.au
Tarzak
Well-known
RFF book 2 had 100 photographers, did it not?
Are we thinking too small?
How many active members does RFF have now? A lot, who may be asleep or actually working, would quickly miss their chance to join in.
Are we thinking too small?
How many active members does RFF have now? A lot, who may be asleep or actually working, would quickly miss their chance to join in.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Blake if you decide to run with this you may recall we set up a dedicated thread here at RFF thru one of the Mods... Rover would probably recall this. No need for a flickr group it adds a second layer of complexity.
It sounds like you're prepared to run with this. Am I right?
It sounds like you're prepared to run with this. Am I right?
Tarzak
Well-known
Memphis you snuck in while I was typing.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Chris sounds like he's on board also. I'm kind of pumped to submit a couple of images if this takes off. I have always been more of an "image guy" than an "equipment guy"
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Blake, IIRC there were two images from each photographer. I think it would make sense to use at least two again. One image per RFF'er seems more like a catalogue of photographers.
There are some newer members since the last book and I think they will be excellent contributors!
There are some newer members since the last book and I think they will be excellent contributors!
samdj1210
Samdj1210
I've created a Flickr group for easy management of photos and threads
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rffbook/
Its a private group so you will need to join up
I've also created an email. Who else would like admin rights? memphis and Chriscrawfordphoto
rffbook3@googlemail.com
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rffbook/
Its a private group so you will need to join up
I've also created an email. Who else would like admin rights? memphis and Chriscrawfordphoto
rffbook3@googlemail.com
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Tarzak
Well-known
I've created a Flickr group for easy management of photos and threads
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rffbook3/
Its a private group so you will need to join up
I have Flickr membership which I never use. how do I join the private group? Flickr currently tell me I do not have permission.
samdj1210
Samdj1210
I like the idea of more people and less photos per person. I think people should only submit 'One of there very best photos'. Therefore we can get the community involved.
sienarot
Well-known
I'd definitely be interested in participating.
But with that said, I really disagree about the part about including equipment and processing information unless it's optional. Cause really, who cares? A good photo is a good photo regardless of what was used to take it.
But with that said, I really disagree about the part about including equipment and processing information unless it's optional. Cause really, who cares? A good photo is a good photo regardless of what was used to take it.
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Todd.Hanz
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How do you join the private Flickr site?
Todd
Todd
sienarot
Well-known
I like the idea of more people and less photos per person. I think people should only submit 'One of there very best photos'. Therefore we can get the community involved.
How about everyone who is participating, submit two photos with a preferences for one over the other. That way we can plan to have 2 photos from 50 people, but if the response is good enough, then the fall back plan is to print the preferred photo and have 100 contributors.
samdj1210
Samdj1210
I have Flickr membership which I never use. how do I join the private group? Flickr currently tell me I do not have permission.
Sorry I made it privite, try this link.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rffbook/
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
I just talked to Blake on the phone, and I'll be laying it out. I'll be doing my own design partly because I am a Mac user, and the software from his company is PC only, and also because I am excited about laying it out myself instead of using someone else's design. This going to be fun! We just have to decide among ourselves how many people and how many photos per person. I think Blake is right to limit to 100 people. That'll make the book big enough. If 100 people each do 2 photos, we'd probably do 2 photos per page so that's 100 pages (plus title page, contents, info pages, etc). If we only let each person do one photo we can put 2 or 3 on a page and get it down to 40-50 pages.
What do you all think?
What do you all think?
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Flicker won't do for managing the project as the images are big by necessity --- My thought is 8x10 300 dpi images, email them to chriscrawford --- we've thought about it and talked about it -- IP seems the way to go --- we use indigo presses
I'll QC the books personally to avoid the books having the odd cast that the previous did
Yes, send them to me at chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com
I can put them on my website on a page for us to look at. Like Blake said, we need 300 dpi photos at 8x10 (or close to that).
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
very good idea, we can do easily a 50/75 page softcover book --- similar to some I've seen
Sounds good to me too.
samdj1210
Samdj1210
there should not be equipment / exposure information -- go into any bookstore and look at the true photo books- - camera/ film / exposure is never mentioned.
This is not amateur hour, let's make it presentable here and instead have a short bio -- as has been done in the books I've participated in that were group projects
I agree, this should be a celebration of our photos. Leave our tech talk to the website.
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