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"Curry goat" is the nomenclature most often used in the Caribbean. Almost universal in Jamaica.

Also common in Brooklyn, NY, and is very often used by Indians when referring to "goat curry" in North American restaurants, but not in India.

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http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Goat

Scroll down to "meat".

A person who speaks Australian, derived from British English, would most probably only know it as "curried goat", or more simply, "a curry".
 
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Hey, Ruben, looks like your thread’s about to founder on the Great Curry Reef ... I’ll attempt to get it back on course! ;)

No. It IS all about the image. The world of photography stops at image-making - it has to: that's the only reason photography exists. So, how can you possibly say it "goes far beyond image-making"?

A photograph is about communication, and a non-photographer looking at a photograph hasn’t the slightest interest in what camera took it. And most photographers I know don’t care either. I know I don't.

You don’t read a book and wonder what model of printing press was used, or look at a drawing and wonder which make of pencil was used - unless you have a very specific reason such as you wanting to print a book or buy a new pencil. If you do this as a matter of course, your priorities are wrong.

Of course, a photographer, writer, illustrator, etc., will have a preference for the tools they use, but only in as much as they help to achieve the primary aim: communication.

There’s nothing special about RFF - it is just one of a myriad forums. Like my camera, it's simply a tool. Why am I member? Because I use a rangefinder - an uncommon tool in this day and age - and can get help here (and give something back by providing advice myself).

And there’s nothing special about a rangefinder - it’s just a camera. The only camera I use is my Leica M8, but, as I said, it’s simply a tool, and I have no sentimental attachment to tools: I’m keeping an eye on the micro-4/3 cameras, and when one comes out in a year or two aimed at serious photographers and fitted with a decent electronic viewfinder, I’ll probably sell the M8.

Gear's of no importance in itself - it serves simply as a means to get the image. I bumped into an elderly gentleman a few months back who spotted my Leica M8. It turned out that he uses and collects Leicas. We talked a bit, and he told me (politely) that I'd ruined what was a mint and valuable lens. Apparently, my 35mm pre-aspherical Summilux is quite rare as it has an infinity lock (most of those with my type of mount don't). What had I done to upset him? Filed a step in the protective lens shroud so it fits on my M8, and drilled pits in the lens mount so I could code it. Do I care? No! Is it "ruined"? Hardly - I think I've improved it, since it now works properly on my M8. My modified lens:

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So, I just ignore threads like this one: "Nicest-looking small, cheap rangefinder?". Small, I get. Nicest looking? It's a well known fact that pretty cameras take better photographs! :rolleyes: <- Sarcasm smiley

Similarly, film vs. digital. Again, doesn't matter which you use so long as you get the image you want (in most cases and for most photographers, it would have little impact on the message conveyed by a photograph).

Too many photographers concern themselves with trivia - which camera, which lens, which film, what sensor size. When we nail a decent shot, it's because of our eyes and what's behind them, not that contraption of glass and metal in our hands. That the image communicates a message is far more important than differences between lenses in bokeh, sharpness, neutrality, tone, and so on - aspects which, in comparison, are mere trifles. I've heard of people with collections of 50mm lenses: why!? I've got two: a large f1.4 and an f2 that's small and more convenient to carry, and I can't imagine why I'd want to buy another. (The equipment must of course be capable of doing what we ask of it - so, yes, if it's dark, for example, you need a fast lens or a tripod.)

Give the Magnum photographer Trent Parke a disposable camera, and he'd still blow me out of the water with stunning shots. Photography - it's all about the image...

Straps? Good grief! Who cares what a strap looks like, or that it's made from luxury Italian leather! OK, I went through a few straps before I found one I liked. So, here’s something new and original about straps... I wear my cameras bandoleer fashion across my chest, and like a strap to be wide enough to spread the weight of the camera and to slide easily - that means straps that are thin or have an anti-slip shoulder/neck grip are off my list. But the canvas Voigtlander Bessa strap is perfect with a few tweaks: cut off the velvet anti-slip grip, and lengthen it by adding a couple of the short leather extensions that some old SLR straps have clipped to their ends. Perfect!

And your point that those who emphasise art over gear can’t take creative photographs is somewhat baseless.

I’m English, and as you know, us English don’t like to beat our own drums too loudly ... but I’ll make an exception. Recent achievements:

• Exhibited by the Royal Photographic Society of Great Britain (one of only 125 images selected from 3000 submitted from around the world)
• Awarded a Distinction by the Royal Photographic Society, permitting me to add LRPS after my name (will soon have a further Distinction - ARPS)
• Awarded gold plaques for winning two different local photography competitions

And here’s a few photos (all taken with an Epson R-D1 or Leica M8).


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A Cut of Speed

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Time in Entropy

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Rainburst

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Still Life
 
I don't know about goat curry, but a Jamaican friend always gets irritated when I tell him he likes to jerk goats.
 
Hey, Ruben, looks like your thread’s about to founder on the Great Curry Reef ... I’ll attempt to get it back on course! ;)

No. It IS all about the image. The world of photography stops at image-making - it has to: that's the only reason photography exists. So, how can you possibly say it "goes far beyond image-making"?

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There’s nothing special about RFF - it is just one of a myriad forums. ..........

Thank you for these three pearls.

Though as an awarded artist you have not displayed too much boldness in punishing the Brittish stadium jerkish crowd that preceeded you, an felt obliged to adhere it at your first paragraph.

As for the last two, I will let other folks to live under their shadow, if they like to.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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I don't get it. The conversation is about curry. Jerking should be another thread.

No, jerk can be rubbed in to this thread. On one extreme you have those awful supermarket jerk flavor powders that you massage into the meat. On the other, home made jerk seasoning which is labor intensive. And in between, you can buy the commercial jerk seasoning paste, some of which is not bad depending on the brand and how long you let it sit on the pork, or chicken.

Now the question becomes cooking method. Traditionalists would argue that only a good bed of coals is appropriate. But others prefer the newer technology: a gas grill with an electric motor to turn the meat and electronic thermostats. But when the gas and electricity run out, then what? Whereas you can always find more wood to put on the fire. Still, others will argue it's not whether you use coals or gas, it's the skill of cook. They say, "the grill is only a tool."

All I know is I like mine spicy.
 
On one extreme you have those awful supermarket jerk flavor powders that you massage into the meat. On the other, home made jerk seasoning which is labor intensive. And in between, you can buy the commercial jerk seasoning paste, some of which is not bad depending on the brand and how long you let it sit on the pork, or chicken.

Any half decent meat emporium now has "pre-jerked" meats (including goat).

It's a great time saver.
 
Oh I get it now .. it's a US idiom, your discussing your hobbies, I was baffled there for a bit


not you Barrett, sorry
 
Thanks, Stewart, although I have been called a wanker in some circles. :p


- Barrett

some may choose to use such strong language with reference to the puerile bunch who disrupt threads they have no interest in, I would try to avoid such confrontation

regards
 
Dear Stewart and Barrett,

I still hope you can input in this thread, as a minimum, some anti hoolygan bold strength, mature character, and if possible your opinions on the subject of the thread. So far you haven't stood up agains the flow of spiting thrown at the house you live in since several years ago.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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